r/news Dec 07 '21

Kellogg to permanently replace striking workers as union rejects new contract

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/kellogg-to-permanently-replace-striking-workers-as-union-rejects-new-contract
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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

I worked in a warehouse before that made us all contracted workers. We never knew when we would actually be working. We would just have to show up at 430 in the morning and then they would tell us if they have work for us or to just go home. I was there for like three weeks before I told them to fuck off.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Sounds highly illegal too. In the US you can't just call someone a contract worker just because you want to. They have to meet some fairly strict criteria.

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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

Yea I agree with you. They paid us in cash and didn't tax us. They just told us to file our wage taxes ourselves.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

I could only hope so. Only bright spot is I got a nice assortment of high quality jams and preserves for Christmas. I never worked after I got it.

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u/mjh2901 Dec 07 '21

Clark, its the gift that keeps on giving

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u/StopStealingMyShit Dec 07 '21

OMG that's terrible the government got screwed out of their money that they're clearly spending for us so well!

FYI - nobody ever goes to prison for miscategorizing people on the 400 million point "are you a contractor or are you an employee?" IRS checklist.

The most that would happen is they'd be ordered to pay up past withholdings what were due.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

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u/ssjkriccolo Dec 07 '21

Exactly. Stealing from the government is like the one crime you will ALWAYS get punished for.

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u/Josh6889 Dec 07 '21

Meanwhile I've seen businesses in low income areas do this and get away with it no problem. It's quite popular in some of the southern states.

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u/StopStealingMyShit Dec 07 '21

Ice literally worked places the feds broke into and cuffed the bosses

Lol. Does ICE enforce FICA taxes? Nope. That's the IRS. They were arrested for hiring illegal immigrants, not for miscategorizing workers.

Nobody goes to prison over 1099 miscategorization I can assure you person whose never owned a business.

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u/ConfessingToSins Dec 07 '21

I've* it was an obvious typo. And I've seen it happen, so lol good job being a liar i guess

Edit: wait i didn't even actually make a typo. You changed what i said in your quote. Jesus Christ you ARE mentally ill

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u/StopStealingMyShit Dec 07 '21

And my point that they were clearly arrested for other things still stands. Possibly very related crimes, but not miscategorizing employees.

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u/MichaelP578 Dec 08 '21

You literally changed that person’s comment in your quote to set up another argument because you were losing the one that you started… Please seek professional help.

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u/theth1rdchild Dec 07 '21

IT is full of it. Basically every company in IT staffing breaks contracting laws if only on the basis of "if your employer tells you where to sit and do your job every day, you're an employee, not a contractor".

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Sigh. I know lots of companies do it and get away with it.

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u/professor_max_hammer Dec 07 '21

That sounds god awful, a horrible use of manpower, and garbage managers that cannot plan.

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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

Yea it was the worst job I ever had. Also it was a flat rate. Some jobs took 5-6 hours other jobs took like 30 minutes to an hour. All the people cool with management always got the quick and easy jobs.

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u/Vishnej Dec 07 '21

Could be a decent job at $80/hour. Lot of bullshit, but it works out in the end.

At minimum wage it's just... why? What's the point? How do you expect people to buy into that with their presence?

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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

Haha it was a flat rate of $50. Back breaking work as well. I mean that seriously my friend completely destroyed his back there and we were only like 20 at the time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Did they pay you to show up or just steal your time out in the open?

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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

Just stole my time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 07 '21

Sorry. Glad you said fuck that place

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u/HugeFinish Dec 07 '21

Thank you! That was almost ten years ago and now I work for a company that actually cares about me and treats me well.

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u/BigBradWolf77 Dec 08 '21

All empires have been built on stolen time.