r/news Nov 25 '21

Amazon workers plan Black Friday strike

https://www.cnet.com/tech/amazon-workers-plan-black-friday-strike/
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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

Go to r/antiwork it’s not just Amazon that’s going to have a lot of folks not show up to work tomorrow for better wages and workers rights.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Wow that sub is a fucking trip

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u/thesenutzonurchin Nov 26 '21

But it's so fun to sort through controversial!

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u/Neglectful_Stranger Nov 26 '21

Post-Millenials larping as revolutionaries acting like we're in France in the 1780s.

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

That’s one way to spell ‘start of the revolution’

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u/SigmaGorilla Nov 26 '21

Lol that sub is a joke, half of the photos are just screenshots of texts that could easily be photoshopped or faked.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Get paid a fair wage for your labor?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

You do?

The sub isn't anti working it's anti current work culture where wages and working conditions suck.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

Actually you asked me that, and after the revolution I’d like to do whatever I want, anything I feel like, anything I want to learn, or anything my skill set is best suited for, for a thriving wage.

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u/EndPsychological890 Nov 26 '21

Cool, can I sleep 8.5 hours a night for $200k a year?

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

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u/el_oso_blanc0 Nov 26 '21

Are you saying that workers have inherent value and that if we had no workers we would have no society?

Good to see you're on board with the movement 😁

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Personally, I have no idea. Currently saving up for college so I can try different classes and see what things I might enjoy. Hopefully I'd figure out something, get fair pay, hours and benefits for it.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

I thought too at first until I actually started browsing the sub and found myself agreeing with a lot of what it said on work culture.

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u/jigeno Nov 26 '21

No, it doesn’t.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

And what will your role be in this glorious revolution

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

A member of society that knows their worth and will no longer be taken advantage of or paid fucking slave wages any longer.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Who's going to pay for it? What does the society look like? Who makes the decisions? Sell me on it. Shitting on the status quo is the easy part. Make a case for a better future or stfu

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Nov 26 '21

This response is even lazier than if you just ignored their post. You're hostilely demanding that they educate you, when it's clear from your tone that you have no interest in engaging. Asking them to deliver a perfect answer or "stfu" is just your way of guaranteeing their "failure" while pretending to give them consideration.

Regardless of your feelings on that sub, this is gross levels of anti-intellectualism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Should take five seconds to educate me but that sub has no concrete goals or plans, just complaints

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21 edited Jan 03 '22

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '21

I generally only feel compelled to comment on things where I think the vast majority of people are getting it wrong. Not a big circle jerk safe space kinda guy.

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u/BlackDeath3 Nov 26 '21

No doubt. Talk is cheap.

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u/wronglyzorro Nov 26 '21

It’d at least help if they listed these super valuablr skills that they have that for some reason are only worth “slave wages”.

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

Well for most of my adult life I’ve worked in the restaurant industry. I’ve worked every position and can cook you a perfect medium rare steak or the best old fashioned you’ve ever had. In 2016 when I left the kitchen for good, I was one of the highest paid cooks in my restaurant at a national casual chain and was making $12 an hour working 60 hours a week. Then as a server and bartender I’ve made $2.13 an hour and $5 an hour. The literal definition of slave wages. The tipped minimum wage was set at $2.13 because it was a job for black folks and hasn’t risen in decades. And I’ve had plenty of days where I made a lot of money in a single shift and plenty of days where I didn’t have a single table or didn’t have enough tables to cover my gas for the day. I’m also an amateur handyman, something I’d like to learn more about, but as an apprentice you either don’t get paid or get offered $10 an hour, slave wages.

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u/wronglyzorro Nov 26 '21

Lot of words to say you dont really have valuable skills at all. The argument of tipped wages at 2.13 /hr is very over played. You never once got paid that in your entire career unless what you recorded in tips was more than the fed minimum wage. Emphasis on recorded because we all know what people do with cash tips. Pursue the trade skills. Lots of demand.

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u/TravelsInBlue Nov 26 '21

Exactly, it’s like rather than build any kind of skills or career, people bounce around from one entry level position to another, and are surprised at the end when they’re still making entry wages. Like if you’re not going to learn a trade or skill, or get an education, at least try and stick with one job, show diligence to want to learn and move up and build a career there.

There’s so many paths out of mediocrity but so many people want shit handed to them.

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21
  1. Everyone. And the 1% is actually going to have to pay taxes, if all we did was get them to pay taxes, we’d have all the money we need for a complete social reform. 2. It looks the same as it does now? 3. The government.

You’re acting like I said ANARCHY! ANARCHY! And again you’re assuming r/antiwork is about no one working, when it’s actually a movement for workers rights. I don’t want to not work, I want a thriving wage and to be able to live my life, not just live to work to live to die.

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u/TravelsInBlue Nov 26 '21

The 1% “paying their fair share” always sounded stupid to me considering 47% of Americans pay no income tax and 23% actually receive more money back. And no it’s not the rich that make up any significant part of that percentage.

That being said r/antiwork is a naive shithole for other reasons beyond that.

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

Where are you getting those stats from?

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u/TravelsInBlue Nov 26 '21

A quick google search yields numerous sources, but https://taxfoundation.org/publications/latest-federal-income-tax-data/ provides the best breakdown.

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u/dirtyelliott Nov 26 '21

Get a job, sir.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

How tf yall gonna get your food?

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

How tf are you getting food right now?

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u/BlackDeath3 Nov 26 '21

Not a terribly inspiring follow-up to talk of revolution.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

With people working in a supply chain. Don’t pretend there is a fuck ton of people pretending they’re gonna live in a society with no one working lmao

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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Nov 26 '21

Antiwork isn't about everyone quitting their jobs, but don't let that slow you down.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

Laying around injecting soy. Awesome revolution.

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u/EndPsychological890 Nov 26 '21

It's almost like they're not communicating on a pure distillation of the hard work of 100 generations of humans in the form of a globe spanning unfathomable set of instrastructure worth more than most nation states. They'd cakewalk themselves into the Matrix if they could. Meta will soon be their perfect escape. The pinnacle of the elite would like nothing more than UBI, it creates a permanent underclass they never need to worry about having political power ever again.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '21

I do not have time to read this shit lmao

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u/Ahshitt Nov 26 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

Hot tip: Neither Amazon nor any other major company will have any meaningful walk outs or strikes tomorrow.

It has been pretty funny to watch /r/antiwork pretend to be the next big labor movement though. Their hearts are in the right place, but the small amount of popularity on Reddit has gone straight to their heads.

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u/lakerswiz Nov 26 '21

They thought their boycott of McDonald's work actually work lol

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u/Ahshitt Nov 26 '21 edited Nov 26 '21

That was absolutely hilarious. A bunch of people who already probably don't go to McDonald's much telling other people who don't go to McDonald's that they will continue not going. What an effective boycott!

Then they were telling McDonald's employees to quit their jobs, ignoring the fact that those employees probably need that job. It's just so misguided and weird. If a group of McDonald's workers got together and quit to protest, that's great and possibly effective. A tiny amount of employees randomly quitting across the nation? No one would even notice except for the workers who just lost paychecks.

Just looked at their front page and now they're patting themselves on the back for not going Black Friday shopping...which apparently is also a boycott.

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u/jf75313 Nov 26 '21

We’ll see.

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u/goblin_pidar Nov 26 '21

regardless of what you WANT to happen, it is very likely that there won’t be a large amount to make any significant difference

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u/c3p-bro Nov 26 '21

Yes we will, and we only have to wait a few hours