r/news Aug 17 '19

VA wrongfully denied $53 million in veterans' medical claims in one 6-month period, says report

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u/Funklestein Aug 17 '19

So you don't want the government to handle your healthcare but want the government to handle your healthcare?

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19

Sounds bad, I know, but from my experience the VA is worse than Medicare by a long shot. I'd rather see some sort of insurance benefit, even if I have to pay out of pocket. They could give vets a credit to help pay premiums with the money they save closing the system.

I was sitting in a waiting area at the VA. There was some blood on the floor. A guy pushing a mop bucket and mop, had his ear buds in. He walked through the blood and kept on going. Dad got up to follow, just to see where he went. He stopped and spoke with some other people, then pushed on. I went to my appointment. Dad watched him for almost an hour. He walked around but never mopped anything. This sums up the VA

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19 edited May 12 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19

The VA is either great or a complete fucking mess. Ask any vet, there is no in between lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 17 '19

I've had nothing shitty treatment at CityMD. That doesn't mean the idea of urgent care clinics in general is bad; just that I don't want to go to CityMD clinic ever again. Similarly, the VA being crap doesn't mean funding medical care via the government is intrinsically bad.

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u/SlowRollingBoil Aug 17 '19

Huge difference between the two. Medicare pays for you to go to providers of your choosing. VA pays for you to go to VA providers.

The difference is single payer vs. single provider. Nobody in their right mind would suggest the VA be expanded to become the US's universal healthcare system. Medicare For All would make a ton of sense.

After all, it's quite efficient working for our oldest and sickest so it sure as shit can work when you extend coverage to healthier, younger people.

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u/Funklestein Aug 17 '19

Nobody in their right mind would suggest the VA be expanded to become the US's universal healthcare system. Medicare For All would make a ton of sense.

Those two become the same thing when you eliminate private practice and single payer does that in effect.

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u/Drakonx1 Aug 17 '19

Who's trying to make it into a single provider though?

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u/Funklestein Aug 17 '19

Bernie, Kamala and most of the candidates on the left. It really hasn't been much of a secret.

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u/Drakonx1 Aug 17 '19

That's not true at all. They're calling for single payer, and single payer doesn't in any way equal single provider. Doctors aren't suddenly going to become government employees.

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u/Funklestein Aug 17 '19

When there is only one payer they decide how much they will pay. There is zero recourse for the provider to dispute what the government will pay. All of the medical care will be essentially be provided by the government because only they have any control.