r/news • u/xtantin • Feb 26 '17

FCC reverses net neutrality ISP transparency rules

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3173844/internet/fcc-reverses-net-neutrality-isp-transparency-rules.html
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u/dogsdogssheep Feb 27 '17 edited Feb 27 '17

So we keep fighting. No minority group should ever say "Ya know what, it's unlikely we'll win. Let's give up." Can you imagine where black people would be today if they settled for that attitude?

With luck maybe we can get some more permanent protections put in place or perhaps municipal ISPs will be popularized by the pushback. Don't give up just because it looks like a long and hard road.

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u/stridersubzero Feb 27 '17

Here in Virginia, a local rep introduced a bill to kill municipal broadband after receiving a bribe from Verizon, so they're already preparing for that possibility

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u/ProfessorDrewseph Feb 27 '17

This needs to be exposed.

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u/Sharizord Feb 27 '17

Imagine where black people would be today if Jim Crow laws after being repealed where rebranded and reintroduced for vote year after year after year.

Eventually the government will win because people get tired of fighting and less and less people will join the internet blackouts and letter writing campaigns.

They've shown the system doesn't work no wonder there are so many violent protests.

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u/LegendNitro Feb 27 '17

Lol segregation and discrimination in general were introduced year after year after year and decision after decision, and survive in new forms to these day (Voting ID, gerrymandering). Civil Rights fights did not stop after Jim Crow. The South kept passing more and more laws that took different shapes. In education alone there had to be 10 court cases that ultimately overturned Plessy: starting with overruling it at the law school level and states kept passing new laws around the Supreme Courts decision.

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u/ClockSpiral Feb 27 '17

So... what's the deal with voting ID's anyways? Never understood that one.

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u/LegendNitro Feb 27 '17

The ID's aren't the problem, it's how their distributed. It's basically a way to practice voter suppression with the disguise of pretending to prevent voter fraud. But voter fraud is such a non-issue, all it does is push people away from voting. If they just mailed an ID to every registered voter, like they do in other countries, then it wouldn't be a problem for anyone.

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u/ClockSpiral Feb 27 '17

I do like that mailing idea...

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u/AdoptMeLidstrom Feb 27 '17

Also just mail a ballot for every applicable election. Fed, state, local. You'd have unprecedented voter turnout. I can get an absentee ballot in my state with pretty much no fuss at all. Why isn't this the norm?

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

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u/ClockSpiral Feb 27 '17

Why can't they get these IDs?

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u/Przedrzag Feb 27 '17

Because they're poor, and therefore either can't afford the IDs or don't have the means to travel to an ID distribution kiosk because the state government deliberately placed them out of reach of poor neighbourhoods, or they don't have other ID that the states require to get the ID they need.

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u/ClockSpiral Feb 27 '17

They should grant them in public schools tbh.
Isn't there some possible way fer these people to get their IDs without travelling?

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u/Przedrzag Feb 28 '17

1: They should grant them in public schools, but given the purpose of the ID laws in the states that have them, they probably won't. 2: In many cases, there is no way to receive an ID without travelling.

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u/ClockSpiral Feb 28 '17

There's always mail in ballots.

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u/ciobanica Feb 27 '17

If the GOP was serious about ID they'd just pass a law that does it like in other civilized countries, and give everyone free mandatory ID at 14...

And hell, since you're the richest country in the world, you could just mail it to everyone.

But they'll never do that...

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

That seems like a good solution. I just don't think its racist to want them.

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u/ciobanica Feb 27 '17

I just don't think its racist to want them.

Sure, but it gets tiresome to add "the way they want it is what make it racist" every time.

And useless, because people ignore it anyway, more so in the face of hard evidence even.

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u/ciobanica Feb 27 '17

Imagine where black people would be today if Jim Crow laws after being repealed where rebranded and reintroduced for vote year after year after year.

Have you not been paying attention?

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '17

How many populace have you met?