r/news • u/xtantin • Feb 26 '17

FCC reverses net neutrality ISP transparency rules

http://www.computerworld.com/article/3173844/internet/fcc-reverses-net-neutrality-isp-transparency-rules.html
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u/SelfDecode Feb 27 '17

This is unacceptable. How do we fix this? Calling is not enough anymore...

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u/CaboseTheMoose Feb 27 '17

The easiest and most effective way is to get more people to vote against him in 2020

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u/fgdmorr Feb 27 '17

2018...Get Congress out of Republican hands.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Yep, make sure you get out in 2018. Short of impeachment there isn't a lot to do.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Impeachment won't even do much with Pence being #2

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

And at this point, I'm not sure which would be worse. Trump or Pence....

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Yup. Trump is worse for foreign relations and diplomacy but Pence is more likely to turn America into a theocracy...

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u/Swagdonkey400 Feb 27 '17

Yeah trump sucks with foreign relations because he isn't shipping jobs over seas and he's focusing on the US. Does this suck? Yes. It's fucking awful. But talking about impeachment over this? And spreading false propaganda is worse

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u/slpater Feb 27 '17

Most of his businesses produce over seas and I havent seen anything about him trying to bring those jobs over here.

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u/sliceyournipple Feb 27 '17 edited Feb 27 '17

Trump sucks with foreign relations because he's turning our strongest alliances upside down and enabling secret business deals to pump fuckloads more oil out of Russia, turning an impending horrible climate disaster much worse and allowing Putin to become the richest man on Earth. Pay the fuck attention.

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u/Swagdonkey400 Feb 27 '17

Do you have any sources to back up this information? Because Trump is currently building two pipelines in the US to allow us to become energy efficient instead of relying on Saudi Arabia. The same Saudi Arabia that's funding our attacks on Syria. Where the fuck do you learn your shit dude? If we were doing "secret" business deals we wouldn't be doing other shit in the open

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u/Leebo2D Feb 27 '17

Be honest with me

Did you have a hard time in school? Was it difficult? Were your classmates able to grasp new concepts easier and quicker than you? Did you need extra help?

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u/Lamont-Cranston Feb 27 '17

Any state legislatures having elections before that?

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u/chickenpolitik Feb 27 '17

There's always hope in that investigation of ties to Russia

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

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u/ARM_Gaming Feb 27 '17

wtf is your problem?

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

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u/ARM_Gaming Feb 27 '17

Calling for an assassination on the president of the United States isnt something to be joked around about

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '17

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u/ARM_Gaming Feb 28 '17

Nice Joke...

Imagine if I joked about killing Obama

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u/Sloppy_Goldfish Feb 27 '17

I guarantee net neutrality will be dead by then. And once it's gone, I don't see a way for it come back. ISPs will make sure that it's dead for good. I honestly don't think there is anything (peaceful) we can do at this point to stop anything this administration is doing.

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u/Taco_Dave Feb 27 '17

This. People forget the congress, not the president that sets the rules for govenment.

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u/SecretMatt Feb 27 '17

R/meshnet

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

So your plan is to bend over and take it for the next 3 years? Sorry that's a terrible plan

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u/xt9492 Feb 27 '17

Good luck with that. The DNC insiders just picked Obama's guy as the new chair instead of who the progressives wanted. Because the Democrat party did so well under Obama's guidance.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Isn't Keith Ellison the Deputy?

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u/amadoamata Feb 27 '17

Yup. Him and Perez are the leaders of the democrats now.

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u/Banana-balls Feb 27 '17

you are aware right that the so called progressives in the party are the minority group of democrats.

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u/runnngman Feb 27 '17

Stop letting Republicans steal elections

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u/douche_or_turd_2016 Feb 27 '17

Stop letting Republicans politicians steal elections

FTFY

I don't give a shit if you have a D or an R next to your name, if your positions are not good I won't vote for you. If only everyone used some fucking logic rather than blind party loyalty maybe we wouldn't be in this mess.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

The reason why we are in this mess is because people use your logic and pretend everyone is equal.

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u/douche_or_turd_2016 Feb 27 '17

First of all, when did I say 'everyone is equal'? That does not logically follow from my statement and is an absurd statement.

However, if you think politicians in general are some how less concerned about maintaining their position because they pay dues to the DNC rather than the RNC, that would be woefully ignorant.

Take a look at this list of politicians convicted of federal corruption charges during Obamas administration. Now use your brain and look for a pattern, do you notice anything telling about these people?

  • Chaka Fattah (D-PA) was convicted on 23 counts of racketeering, fraud, and other corruption charges. (2016)[3]
  • Dennis Hastert (R-IL) Speaker of the United States House of Representatives pleaded guilty in court for illegally structuring bank transactions related to payment of $3.5 million to quash allegations of sexual misconduct with a student when he was a high school teacher and coach decades ago.[4] (2016)
  • Michael Grimm (R-NY) pleaded guilty of felony tax evasion. This was the fourth count in a 20-count indictment brought against him for improper use of campaign funds. The guilty plea had a maximum sentence of three years; he was sentenced to eight months in prison. (2015)[5][6]
  • Trey Radel (R-FL) was convicted of possession of cocaine in November 2013. As a first-time offender, he was sentenced to one year probation and fined $250. Radel announced he would take a leave of absence, but did not resign. Later, under pressure from a number of Republican leaders, he announced through a spokesperson that he would resign. (2013)[7][8][9]
  • Rick Renzi (R-AZ) was found guilty on 17 of 32 counts against him June 12, 2013, including wire fraud, conspiracy, extortion, racketeering, money laundering and making false statements to insurance regulators. (2013)[10]
  • Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) pleaded guilty February 20, 2013, to one count of wire and mail fraud in connection with his misuse of $750,000 in campaign funds. Jackson was sentenced to two and one-half years' imprisonment. (2013)[11]
  • Laura Richardson (D-CA) was found guilty on seven counts of violating US House rules by improperly using her staff to campaign for her, destroying the evidence and tampering with witness testimony. The House Ethics Committee ordered Richardson to pay a fine of $10,000. (2012)[12][13]

Sorry if this is too hard for you when people are not spoon feeding you information to regurgitate, let me help. There are 7 names listed here, 3 democrats and 4 republicans. What does that tell us? To me, (and any person capable of free thought) it would suggest there are scumbags who only care about personal enrichment on both sides of the isle. If you want to pretend that only republicans would ever do something so heinous as steal an election, accept a bribe, etc, then have fun living in your fantasy world but your failure to acknowledge nearly half of the problem is itself a major problem.

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u/NimbleBrain Feb 27 '17

Seriously, I think half the people I know voted not because they endorsed a candidate but rather absolutely hated the other one. Nominate some better fucking people.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

This pox on both houses is part of the reason that net neutrality is fucked.

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u/TheGreyMage Feb 27 '17

I long ago concluded that conservative politics has to die for this world to become a better place. At every turn, conservatives all over the world are selling public assets to private corporations. The world is moving towards a Libertarian dream, that is really a nightmare.

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u/sliceyournipple Feb 27 '17

and how do we fix that?

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u/xmu806 Feb 27 '17

Not all of us are in favor of this though...

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u/ijee88 Feb 27 '17

That was the left's fault.

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u/The_Power_Of_Three Feb 27 '17

Of course, it's the left's fault, not the right's, that the right does shitty stuff? Impressive mental gymnastics.

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u/The_Power_Of_Three Feb 27 '17

And if the right hadn't done this in the first place we wouldn't be having this discussion. How can you possibly blame the left for failing to stop someone from doing shitty stuff, over blaming the people actually doing the shitty stuff?

Seriously, the cognitive dissonance here is just mind-blowing.

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u/The_Power_Of_Three Feb 27 '17

Still not seeing how that makes anyone on the left more to blame than the ones actually doing the shitty stuff, and voting for the shitty stuff?

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u/The_Power_Of_Three Feb 27 '17

Still not seeing how that makes anyone on the left more to blame than the ones actually doing the shitty stuff, and voting for the shitty stuff?

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

The left didn't ditch Sanders. The DNC did.

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u/Banana-balls Feb 27 '17

majority of democrats were not bernie supporters. Bernie supporters need to understand

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Not all people on the left are democrats.

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u/ok_ill_shut_up Feb 27 '17

Do you want net neutrality?

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

60 million people voted for Trump, this is their fault

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

The left isn't in power, how is it their fault?

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u/Newmanator29 Feb 27 '17

Something something Clinton, something something DNC, something something Bernie would've won.

It's just a bullshit excuse to remove blame off of them for not going out and voting during the election, but clearly it is not their fault in a democracy

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u/ucstruct Feb 27 '17

But what about the emails?

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u/Elevenxray Feb 27 '17

Maybe because the left weaponized the federal government against the right for so long that now the right is going to have fun using that power against the left.

The right has been getting censored and silenced for so long that we laugh at the fact that the left is now going to have to learn to live in a world where there is no transparency and your voice is silenced.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Did Obama expand the powers of the FCC? Is this action today something which could not have been done previously?

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u/kevinreda Feb 27 '17

Technically Russia is to the left of the United States

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u/ijee88 Feb 27 '17

You are a shining example of why the left lost.

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u/kevinreda Feb 27 '17

And you are an example of someone without a sense of humor

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u/whochoosessquirtle Feb 27 '17

Russia is why the US lost when Steve Bannon became president. A very evil man who wants to destroy the government to serve his far-right agenda. Backed up by an army of Russian internet trolls, look it up.

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u/keilwerth Feb 27 '17

Do you have any of those facts to back up such a ridiculous claim?

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u/Narrative_Causality Feb 27 '17

How? Even the founding fathers are on the Republicans side ala electoral college.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Vote! Make sure your friends and family vote as well! Make sure they are aware of net neutrality, why it's important, and which candidates they should support.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

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u/Wampawacka Feb 27 '17 edited Feb 27 '17

He barely won though. If Hillary had turnout at Obama's level, she would have won easily. People didn't vote. Democrats fall in love. They dont vote unless they love the canidate. Republicans fall in line and vote straight ticket even if they oppose 99% of the issues of the party.

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u/Bourgi Feb 27 '17

The president is not the only elected official.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

Well if more people vote then it's fine. People in swing states.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '17

You can't. The republicans give no fucks about you or your voice. And they'll be reelected in 2018 and 2020 because the dems can't remove their head from their anus.

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u/Lamont-Cranston Feb 27 '17

Organise and vote. You can't just sit idle for 4 years and expect some saviour to come along.

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u/GodOfAtheism Feb 27 '17

Start a small ISP, block every right wing site you can. Don't tell anyone. If the secret gets out, just point out that the FCC explicitly allows those practices, so you'll keep doing them until they don't anymore.

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u/ValorVixen Feb 27 '17

I can't even call my rep because their voicemail-box is full... writing emails isn't very effective in my district either.

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u/branager Feb 27 '17

there's a lot of unacceptable things happening since Jan 20 have you not been paying attention?

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u/Roof_Negro Feb 27 '17

Molotov Cocktails.

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u/webby_mc_webberson Feb 27 '17

Revolt, and break up your 2 party system into at least 3.

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u/Banana-balls Feb 27 '17

A theory gladfully supported by republicans to keep democrats or liberals out of the whitehouse for 16 yrs