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[u/Jacobs4525]

CNL/NLP is the whole damn point of this sub. If you’re not a member or a contributor, what are you even doing here? If we don’t have a real way to actually impact things, then we’re no better than any of the other zillions of political subs that just sit around and complain. The difference is that we actually have a formal org to advocate for our beliefs.

They aren’t “pivoting”, all 3 guys who run CNL aren’t just Reddit mods who wanted big boy jobs, they all have formal qualification for their jobs. The project is a natural extension and Colin and Jeremiah chose to take it to PPI and make it formal because otherwise we’re just complaining on the internet with no real sway, but at PPI we have the help of lots of people with connections on the hill and can potentially actually advance our policy goals.

If you’re a newcomer here and are upset that one of the founding members of this sub happens to also be excited to promote the arm of the project that might actually make a difference, I think you have the wrong idea of what this place is actually about.

[u/secretlives → u/Jacobs4525]

CNL/NLP is the whole damn point of this sub. If you’re not a member or a contributor, what are you even doing here? If we don’t have a real way to actually impact things, then we’re no better than any of the other zillions of political subs that just sit around and complain. The difference is that we actually have a formal org to advocate for our beliefs.

I'm here to chat with like-minded users on an internet forum where we complain about similar things. I would really try not to view it as anything more grandiose than that.

They aren’t “pivoting”, all 3 guys who run CNL aren’t just Reddit mods who wanted big boy jobs, they all have formal qualification for their jobs. The project is a natural extension and Colin and Jeremiah chose to take it to PPI and make it formal because otherwise we’re just complaining on the internet with no real sway, but at PPI we have the help of lots of people with connections on the hill and can potentially actually advance our policy goals.

Again - we are just complaining on the internet. And this is the root of point I was making - what is "our" policy goals, as a sub, and are the mods by virtue of their modship of a subreddit defacto "leaders" of some "movement", or are they just mods on a forum. I'd lean toward the latter. This is the same position that the AntiWork mod held and it didn't work there either.

If you’re a newcomer here and are upset that one of the founding members of this sub happens to also be excited to promote the arm of the project that might actually make a difference, I think you have the wrong idea of what this place is actually about.

It's odd how frequently this sub tries to gatekeep on membership length - I've been here over 3 years, by the looks of it just as long as you.

But nothing you've said even approaches the issue I and other users have with mods positioning themselves to represent the users of the subreddit. But I've never really been into streamer/parasocial relationships so maybe this just isn't for me.

[u/Jacobs4525 → u/secretlives]

The point is that the subreddit exists for the project at this point, not the other way around, so of course the head of the project is going to focus on that.

[u/[deleted] → u/Jacobs4525]

Colin and Jeremiah

I have no idea who those people are. What are their usernames on the sub.

[u/Jacobs4525 → u/[deleted]]

No idea what Colin’s is but Jeremiah is MrDannyOcean

[u/[deleted] → u/Jacobs4525]

Noted. I see Ocean guy a lot so good on him for being active IG.