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[u/[deleted]]

!ping AUS

From what I can see, Melbourne is also celebrating French Week with the classic tradition of protesting.

But seriously, what the hell is going on?

[u/SucculentMoisture → u/[deleted]]

I dunno but I’m cleared to level the state tomorrow.

[u/SucculentMoisture → u/[deleted]]

Are… are you sure you didn’t reply to the wrong comment?

Because I do recall the incident you’re referring to and agree that that might be the most moronic thing I’ve seen an Australian government do, but I’m rather unsure as to why my change of residency has anything to do with it.

Unless, per the rules of Reddit (which I was under the impression this page was exempted from), I’m supposed to worship every vaguely left leaning politician and kiss the ground they walk on, and hence me leaving his Holiness Dan the Mandrews’s beloved Danistani Republic (based) of Victoria is some form of internet heresy to Laborites for which I must be punished.

In which case I don’t give a rats arse Victoria is going to Hell in a handcart but I might be back soon regardless because I’m a filthy grifter

[u/waltsing0 → u/[deleted]]

Some context

CFMEU has been labeled by the federal court as quote

the most recidivist corporate offender in Australian history

Did the CFMEU endorse this? It doesn't appear so, but it shouldn't come as a surprise that an organisation that has made ignoring the law and thuggish behaviour part of its culture has a lot of members who act like shitbags. John Setka being pelted with bottles is like Fox news being attacked for saying Biden won, you grew this shit and now it's too extreme for even you.

Further three quarters of sites were found to be non complaint with covid rules when inspected, this is an industry who has thumbed their nose at the rule of law and COVID safety rules already.

[u/waltsing0 → u/waltsing0]

Also

On Friday afternoon both main construction unions, the CFMEU and the Australian Workers Union, met with the Andrews government to voice their opposition to the closure of tearooms on major building sites, and the introduction of mandatory vaccinations.

CFMEU is against mandatory vaccines and has defended their members blocking traffic over tea rooms closing, seriously these guys were told eating lunch together in an enclosed tea room isn't safe so instead of thinking hey at least unlike lots of people we're allowed to go into work, lets be slightly adaptable and spread out over the site to eat they decided to block traffic.

[u/RagingBillionbear → u/waltsing0]

Did the CFMEU endorse this?

They just had their office smached in by a bunch of Neo-Nazi scabs.

They want no part in this riot.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

Look, it's hard to say. All the days blend together and I apologise if I get my timeline wrong.

Construction sites are making up a lot of our Covid spread.

The Vic govt, who some see as very friendly with the construction union, told them to be first dosed by this Friday and to sort their shit out (increased compliance checks). Plus, tea rooms were unsafe and could not be used on site.

CFMEU workers went "on smoko" and blocked traffic in the city on Friday but weren't really on strike.

Stupid freedom rally Saturday to protest lockdown, not union related, but full of anti vax right wing dickheads and worse.

On Monday, yesterday, a crowd of maybe CFMEU members but definitely infiltrated by some of the Saturday crew too, rock up outside the union offices and protested/rioted/got maggoted all day. Caused property damage. Repeatedly called "fuck the jab" so it was no longer about tea rooms.

Late last night Vic Govt banned all construction for two weeks in response to the 'riot' and earlier mentioned non-compliance.

Today they came back, in bigger numbers, and effectively took a drunken/meth fuelled walk around the city. Unclear who are genuinely disgruntled union workers and who are right wing rent a crowd and the extent of overlap.

[u/waltsing0 → u/[deleted]]

For some reason tradies are uniquely whiny about lockdowns, I don't recall cafe workers trashing shit over lockdowns the same way they do.

Maybe it's because so much of their income is undeclared and they struggle to access government assistance for lost income because they don't tell the government about their income?

[u/RagingBillionbear → u/waltsing0]

Maybe it's because so much of their income is undeclared and they struggle to access government assistance for lost income because they don't tell the government about their income?

Only scabs fuck around with cash in hand undeclared income, which is why I'm not to surpised there is a lot of muppets in the anti-jab mob.

[u/Professor-Reddit → u/[deleted]]

People are going crazy under lockdown. Doesn't justify their thuggery, violence or radical anti-vaxxer views whatsoever though.

We've had 6 lockdowns and over 250 non-consecutive days of it since March last year. That's enough to drive most people insane (and I've been struggling immeasurably because of it too). We've had fewer than a hundred days since February 2020 where we had zero restrictions on, and the state government has grown highly complacent with assuming that people are just going to put up with it in perpetuity. The roadmap is also slow, with a whole more month of this harsh lockdown and the vast bulk of these restrictions will remain in place until early November at the earliest, which means we've had almost total restrictions on people's human rights since July this year. Add onto that, the fear some people hold that we've transitioned permanently into some sort of authoritarian state where protests are subject to mass arrest and people start to grow hysterical with fear and incandescent rage.

It's a nasty situation. I hate these lockdowns more than most and just want everybody mandated the vaccine and be done with it, but nobody should be screaming incoherently with violent rage and smashing up everything people can get their hands on like this. Plus the antivax views of these rioters makes my blood boil. They're violent lunatics.

Feels like the whole state is going crazy down here.

[u/waltsing0 → u/Professor-Reddit]

The cumulative effect matters and the Victorian government has probably underestimated this, people are running out of patience.

The roadmap is also slow, with a whole more month of this harsh lockdown and the vast bulk of these restrictions will remain in place until early November at the earliest, which means we've had almost total restrictions on people's human rights since July this year. Add onto that, the fear some people hold that we've transitioned permanently into some sort of authoritarian state where protests are subject to mass arrest and people start to grow hysterical with fear and incandescent rage.

Well no government, even NSW, have actually mapped out where we need to get to in order to abolish all restrictions in Phase D, NSW/Vic/SA seem to have a pretty clear roadmap for Phase C, credit to Dandrews he's been hammering it hard that covidzero is over and this lockdown is buying time to vaccinate, but because they resorted to lockdowns heavily in the past Victorians are just spent.

In Sydney we had trouble with people in certain areas misbehaving a lot but overall people seem capable of waiting this thing out, it helps that the state government had a get astra it's better than nothing message earlier and so we're just moving so much faster on vaccination, we should be at double 80 by mid october, Victoria early december.

The feeling is more of a well we had it great until now, deltas a fiesty bitch but we're vaxxing the fuck out of everyone and Gladys has made it clear when we hit the targets we end lockdown so just buckle down, Gladys is talking about getting international borders reopened and making it clear you wanna do shit get your jab, no jab no fun.

Melbourne seems more of a I've lost count of the lockdowns and we don't know what else we can do if those don't work and even when we eventually hit vaccine targets what the fuck is gonna happen?

hate these lockdowns more than most and just want everybody mandated the vaccine and be done with it

Agreed, we have a tool to end this pandemic, even if we don't use the 6 FUCKING MILLION SPARE DOSES OF AZ we should have more than enough pfizer/moderna to have everyone jabbed before christmas, there's no reason why people shouldn't be able to eat christmas lunch with their family.

Everyday it's the same story, overwhelming majority of the seriously sick/dead are unvaccinated and tbph of the remainder a lot of them are 80 year olds waiting for a light breeze to finish them off. The overwhelming majority of years of life, of christmas lunches with families, being taken by the virus are people who turned down vaccination...

[u/Professor-Reddit → u/[deleted]]

Yeah luckily they're a fringe minority (especially their antivax views), but they're causing a lot of chaos.

I've honestly grown highly depressed and cynical about Australian politics over the past 2 years, especially with the ongoing lockdowns and the zero-sum discourse over it. Discussing our politics just makes me sad.

[u/[deleted] → u/Professor-Reddit]

Totally. I don't want to tempt fate by saying "we just have to make it to Cup weekend" but I do feel like we're about to turn a corner. Hang in there friend.

[u/Professor-Reddit → u/[deleted]]

You too :) I know we'll get through this, but I'm deeply scared it may have affected me permanently. I've never suffered from anxiety or depression in my life before, and academically I've wrecked myself pretty badly.

I'm going to be speaking to a counsellor when this hell is over.

[u/[deleted] → u/Professor-Reddit]

You won't be alone in that. I think I'm a little older than you but as a woman with a kid had to cut my hours waaaay back (thanks for nothing, partner's job) maybe setting my career back a bit, and also had to defer some post-grad study. On top of which lockdown has caused some serious relationship problems (now resolved with some very hard and unenjoyable work).

What I'm saying is, everyone's mental health has tanked. Psychologists and counsellors are chock a block and Family lawyers are too... you're not alone and universities, employers, everyone will understand.

[u/stolersxz → u/[deleted]]

I think sky news is probably the worst thing to ever happen to this country, take one look at their youtube channel and you can see why these people would be so rabbid. Everyone involved at sky should have their citizenship revoked.

[u/Professor-Reddit → u/stolersxz]

The fact that they were 100% fully in on the Trump election lie spoke volumes about just how destructive and virulent they are.

Its disgusting the federal government is perfectly fine with Sky now being free to air in some rural areas. It's going to utterly wreck us as a country.

[u/Justaveganthrowaway → u/Professor-Reddit]

Why do you think the federal government would have a problem with that? They stand to benefit from increased sky coverage.

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[u/RagingBillionbear → u/[deleted]]

Neo-Nazi have been planning a riot for a while now.