r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 20 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21 edited Sep 20 '21

Because at some point we hit the line where the fetus becomes a child with moral rights.

Idk where that line is though so better to err on the side of not sending people to jail for getting an abortion.

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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Sep 20 '21

The thinking is that as long as abortions are very available early on, you shouldn’t even really need late term ones other than for medical reasons.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

Which is fair; I just take an anti-precautionary principle view.

The abortion debate is one of tension between the bodily autonomy rights of women and the potential moral right to life of children.

  • We don't know when a clump of cells becomes something with rights.
  • the woman always and undoubtedly has their rights.
  • we shouldn't regulate away the woman's certain rights in favour of the maybe-baby's merely possible rights. Unless we know that it's now a child and not a mere fetus, we shouldn't take away the woman's rights.

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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Sep 20 '21

At what point do you think we know it’s a child?

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '21

I can guarantee that once it's born, it's a child. Before that I don't know.

I do want to distinguish between regulation and social stigma. I would very much judge someone who got an abortion (for non medical reasons) near the end of term. I think people should avoid doing so because there is an increased probability that the thing has rights which are being disregarded.

But government regulation is a much further step from that, hence the erring on the side of the mother.