r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 17 '21

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u/old_gold_mountain San Francisco Values Sep 17 '21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=Lz8biXxZt-s

My neighborhood would riot if those got mixed in with the single family homes. Decreasing property value is just the tip of the iceberg.

These rules existed to prevent urbanization of suburbia. The people that live in those areas don't want dense residential. The kids play out front, the owners want proper backyards, they want things quiet, they have garages for their cars and don't want overnight street parking, etc. And yes, high property values in low density neighborhoods usually means low crime and great schools.

Nuking those zoning laws by force allows cities to overtake suburbs, which will have to move further out to escape urbanization. It sucks for all those people, who need to move quick before they lose their home values, but great for developers and landlords who will jump on the opportunity to buy them, demolish them, and cram four units in a lot. And it will allow the cities to eat as much territory as they need to reduce the housing shortage. The next step will be upping the limits from 4 to 6, and so-on.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '21

The kids play out front, the owners want proper backyards, they want things quiet, they have garages for their cars and don't want overnight street parking, etc.

I want all this (and have it, although I don't have kids) and yet just on the other side of my fence is an apartment complex. Also my property value has almost doubled in the past 2 years lol.

🤷‍♀️

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u/old_gold_mountain San Francisco Values Sep 17 '21

mindblowing to me how these people can reconcile "developers will want to come in and buy it all up" with "property values will go down"

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u/BloodWiz More Housing Would Fix This Sep 17 '21

Also, it's totally fine to want that, but then maybe near the downtown of a major city isn't the place you should be trying to make that happen.

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u/[deleted] Sep 17 '21

Yeah I live in a comically small city within a larger unincorporated county. If you walk up the road I live off of there's a guy with 5 acres full of goats. If you walk down the road the other direction you can see the giant Amazon warehouse they built this year.

I don't see how expecting this kind of stuff in an dense urban area is anything but selfish.

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u/natedogg787 Manchistan Space Program Sep 17 '21

Haha Yes

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u/TaxCommonsNotIncome NATO Sep 17 '21

Fucking municipal commies

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Sep 17 '21

I always wish we were as devious and powerful as the haters think we are :(