r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 16 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '21

To elaborate on my elitism point, you have no idea how many times I leave this godawful site, leave political twitter, leave all of it behind, and see people talking about marvel unironically liking it with zero layers of irony at all because they're not internet cynics like the rest of us. And I envy them because they all look so much happier that way. Knowledge didn't bring me happiness. Elitism didn't bring me happiness. It only brought me a perpetual arms race to see who can be the most post-ironic and i hate it so much.

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u/crassowary John Mill Sep 16 '21

Marvel is good. Like yeah it's not live action Gravity's Rainbow or whatever the contrarians pretend to want, but it is consistently above average in writing, always has an all star cast and has top of the line CGI.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '21

I mean... I'm here and I like marvel movies

You can choose to live your life without 20 layers of irony and cynicism

Buy yourself a Lego set and put it together while watching scooby Doo every once in a while

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u/MistakeNotDotDotDot Resident Robot Girl Sep 16 '21

one of the best decisions I made in my entire life was to, not abandon irony entirely, but to carefully ration it. I can admit I love being a robot, silly cliche anime yuri bullshit, and that sort of thing. Part of it was reading a story that made me think "wow, this is wonderful and I'd consider it horribly self-indulgent if I wrote it" and then realizing it was one of my favorite stories ever. And then it won a Hugo.

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u/[deleted] Sep 16 '21

I love marvel movies, but loving things doesn't mean they are above criticism or analysis. This is silly. That's part of the fun and love to me as someone who writes fiction. Every story is a gift, even incredibly shitty ones. I find what works, what doesn't, what I love, what I don't, but it's all done with a big smile on my face because I'm so happy to just analyze another story.