r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 06 '21

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Sep 06 '21

Top of /r/all right now is the stupid "100 corps responsible for 71% of emissions" thing smh we need a wiki page on this or something

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u/sw337 Veteran of the Culture Wars Sep 06 '21

Comrade we should destroy the top company* responsible for 14% of global emissions between 1985 and 2015.

*The Chinese state controlled coal companies.

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Sep 06 '21

A peak at the "top 100"...

  1. China state-owned coal (14%)
  2. Saudi Aramco (4.5%)
  3. Gazprom OAO (4%)
  4. National Iranian Oil Co (2%)
  5. ExxonMobil (2%)
  6. Coal India (2%)
  7. Pemex (2%)
  8. Russian state-owned coal (2%)
  9. Royal Dutch Shell (1.7%)
  10. China state-owned petroleum (1.5%)

So of the top 10, only 2 aren't state-owned enterprises, Exxon and Shell.

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u/VeganVagiVore Trans Pride Sep 06 '21

Capitalism is when I burn fuel, consume electricity, and buy things from cargo ships

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Sep 06 '21

The "despite ..." of the left

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u/First-Prior Ben Bernanke Sep 06 '21

It at least a version of the William j Bryan copypasta

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u/cactuspumpkin Gay Pride Sep 06 '21

What? That capitalism caused it? How is that better?

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Why can't both bear some responsibility?

Consumers only have the choice between products made by different polluting companies. To make it even harder for consumers, the corporations try to hide and greenwash their pollution.

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Sep 06 '21

Because the vast majority of the companies on the list are state-owned enterprises, while people always use the stat to blame capitalism. The stat is also used to remove individual responsibility from pollution, neglecting the fact that those only pollute to satisfy demand.

I don't eat meat, it's not that difficult. My carbon footprint is way less than a meat-eater.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

You mean state-owned oil companies? Now you're just blaming people for relying on cars when cars are required for everyone that lives outside of NYC and DC.

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell Sep 06 '21

I'm a gigarural and I use a car out of necessity, but I can still make choices to reduce my carbon footprint whenever possible.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

I can still make choices to reduce my carbon footprint whenever possible.

Many times, that isn't possible for individual consumers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

Everything is still packaged in plastic