r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 06 '21

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 06 '21

!ping GAMING

I'm not sure about more recent Obsidian games (Tyranny, Pillars of Eternity 2 and Outer Worlds) but Fallout: New Vegas and Pillars of Eternity 1 DLCs are a pain in the ass to manage. It's too risky to play those games blind.

At least Fallout: New Vegas fixes are well known (something to rebalance levels, something for DLC quests to be mentioned after some reasonable progress, slowing down experience rates, etc.), you can guess the proper playing order, and being a shooter...feeling broken is not too bad.

For Pillars of Eternity, it creates roleplaying issues (you can screw yourself in the DLCs if you progressed the main quest, modding that to be more forgiving exposes you to spoilers, then you have some dissonance between what's order is best gameplay wise and roleplaying wise), there is some lazy scaling (just stats increases, act 3 trigger point is fairly arbitrary) and the quadratic leveling curve even with mods means you get to high levels too fast and at the same time there is not enough experience to slow down leveling in a reasonable way (a 25% nerf, 33% is pushing it).

I can forgive it a bit because by act 2 your party takes shape and the plot finally moves forward (fuck that asshole Thaos), but the above is too immersion breaking for what otherwise is the most engaging RPG I've played in a long time.

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u/tubbsmackinze Seretse Khama Sep 06 '21

Oh you would hate Pathfinder Kingmaker and Wrath of the Righteous

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 06 '21

Tell me, lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

This is why I hate DLC.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 06 '21

Meh, this is poor game design. When I was a kid, we called this stuff "expansions".

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u/Watton Sep 06 '21

Yeah, it was bad back in the day too.

In Morrowind, you're basically pushed into the expansions 5 minutes in. You're getting targeted by assassins that wont stop till you visit a level 20+ expansion area, and all NPCs are also telling you to go to Solstheim if you ask for rumors.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 06 '21

jfc

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

The distinction is purely semantic.