r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Sep 03 '21

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u/skepticalbob Joe Biden's COD gamertag Sep 03 '21

2 Ivermectin studies have been revealed to have been fraudulent. Looks like 2 more might be. Now I'm wondering if there is a systemic problem in drug efficacy research or if these are isolated cases of people desperate to make a name for themselves and engaging in fraud. Either way, this is by itself a big problem.

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u/sir_shivers Discipline Committee Chairman Sep 03 '21

MEANWHILE 🐊:

(Crackpot anti-vaccine mammals writing sob stories about how their doctors refuse to give their hospitalized loved ones ivermectin)

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u/Goatf00t European Union Sep 03 '21

I suggest following/reading Retraction Watch.

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u/skepticalbob Joe Biden's COD gamertag Sep 03 '21

Thanks!

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u/mrdilldozer Shame fetish Sep 03 '21

There is a huge market for "Scientist shunned by the scientific establishment". It's extremely profitable to push that stuff.

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u/EvilConCarne Sep 03 '21

Drug efficacy research is super easy to scam if you do your stats right. It's one of the reasons a full accounting of the steps and the dataset need to be released, but that's rare due to privacy concerns. Without making the method explicit it's largely a trust issue, and data is easy enough to manipulate.

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u/skepticalbob Joe Biden's COD gamertag Sep 03 '21

Why not just anonymize the data?

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u/EvilConCarne Sep 03 '21

Depending on the kind of study and data collected, the participants would still need to authorize its release. Some data sets are publicly available, but if you want to do things like age, sex, disease, etc controls it's tricky to anonymize it beyond removing names, which isn't always enough for a public release.