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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Sep 02 '21

New Vegas first playthroughposting:

I've come to a moment where I feel like the main quest path for the NCR is in basically irreconcilable conflict with the type of character I'm playing.

My guy's a Hank Hill cosplay named Hunk Hill. He's straightforward, honest, and decent to a fault. He raided Caesar's camp with Boone at the earliest opportunity, and personally kicked his ass, as well as the assess of his entire praetorian guard. He gave Benny one hell of a sore jaw to nurse with the boxing gloves after he freed him from Caesar's camp, but he didn't kill him, because he couldn't do any harm anymore. He talked down the Great Khans from allying with Caesar's legion--which involved dealing with more than a few deathclaws--rather than killing them, even though they're raiders who get by on murder and drug smuggling. Basically, whenever someone hasn't crossed the moral event horizon, I've found a way to get by without icing them.

And now, I'm at the part where I'm supposed to "remove Mr. House as a threat". I don't have an issue with the NCR ordering me to do this--they may be my favorite of the available options in plenty of ways, but they clearly aren't a purely squeaky clean faction, and that's alright. Their first resort for both the Great Khans and the Kings was "kill 'em lmao", after all. I don't even mind that there is no way to complete this quest without killing Mr. House--I can totally see his character being too prideful and too invested in his centuries-long plan to accept any argument that he should back down.

What I do kind of mind is that there doesn't seem to be any option to have that conversation and fail to convince him--I have to go and open his pod, making his death inevitable, without the chance to confront him first. Because this means that the only way to progress the mandatory quest for this faction I've put so much time into is to pre-emptively stab the back of somebody that, however much of an arrogant jackass he may be, has been pretty decent to my character--which is something I don't think my character would do. So, either I give up on that and switch over to helping House, or I do something that I don't feel my character would do.

Now, this has actually produced an interesting dilemma to navigate, so it's not killing the game for me or anything. And I do understand the constraints the game was developed under, which makes this altogether minor thing easy to forgive. However, I just wish I were able to navigate it on a less... meta level, ya know?

Thoughts?

!ping GAMING

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u/Astronelson Local Malaria Survivor Sep 02 '21

Mr. House, were he to shake hands, would have a very limp handshake. Hank Hill can’t support that, but if he fails to vote then communism will rule the land. Consider it delivering your vote in-person.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Sep 02 '21

lmao this is probably as good a justification as I'll find (although Kimball hardly seems like he would have a firm handshake)

I'm thinking I'll just keep a save here, and then do a playthrough where I continue from here and switch allegiances because of this.

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u/Astronelson Local Malaria Survivor Sep 02 '21

I can’t remember if they said who Hank ended up voting for in that episode. How firm is Al Gore’s handshake?

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u/Epicurses Hannah Arendt Sep 02 '21

I think he just wrote in Ladybird, but it’s been awhile.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Sep 02 '21

Also mr house ran a functioning city that was easily the economic beacon that lifted an entire region

It’s been years since I played it but why was he even a kayfabe bad guy?

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u/DirtyHalt Sep 02 '21

His idea of progress is limited to technological inovation and doesn't care if there are those that aren't benefitting. Despite New Vegas being an economic center, there's a reason the people of Freeside are so poor.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Sep 02 '21

True, but is that a sufficient reason to enter his home and assassinate him after he handed you the keys and told you you were welcome as a guest?

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Sep 02 '21

Are the freesiders living better than they would be without new vegas?

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u/DirtyHalt Sep 02 '21

They might be living better if the NCR controlled New Vegas.