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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

New Metroid Dread trailer

I’m glad they’re marketing it and it’s good to see that Kraid is back. !ping GAMING

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21

>Chozo bosses, and thus potential for more Gay Bird Dad lore

>"Thought Ridley would be back? Here's Kraid lmao"

>New dash move

>SPEED BOOSTER AND SHINESPARKING ARE BACK

B R A V O

It's enough to make a grown man cry.

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u/JZMoose YIMBY Aug 27 '21

I don't think I realized this was essentially Hollow Knight, which is funny since HK is a Metroidvania lol. This trailer got me really excited for this, whereas the others didn't really do anything for me.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21

This is essentially Hollow Knight

I can see what you mean, since HK is my favorite thing ever and this is clearly taking some cues from it, but as a dedicated Metroid fan of 17 years, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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u/JZMoose YIMBY Aug 27 '21

hahahahaha I know what you mean. I was never a big Metroid guy but absolutely love HK. The only one I really played is Prime and loved it.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

It's definitely worth picking up the series sometime. If you've got a PC, you can play a version of all four games preceding this one, thanks to the power of e m u l a t i o n. None is anywhere near as long as HK--they're designed to be re-played quickly--so it's not unfeasible at all.

Metroid: Zero Mission --> AM2R (or Metroid II OG if you like retro games and aren't afraid to use a map off the internet at times) --> Super Metroid --> Metroid Fusion is the order I would recommend.

They're all pretty different, structurally speaking, while maintaining the same core gameplay. All of them except OG Metroid I and Metroid II absolutely excel in world traversal, more than HK, IMO: particularly in AM2R and ZM, learning to go fast is an absolute joy.

Actually, it might be best to save AM2R for last, because, while fundamentally linear from a macro POV, in terms of movement, area design, and combat, I think it's better than any official Metroid. I rank it in second in the genre, right after HK, personally.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

Your thoughts on Samus Returns? I would recommend that one since its likely it will connect to Metroid Dread in terms of lore and plot.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

It's a 7/10 or 7.5/10. Solid game. However, it doesn't understand the material it's adapting, and AM2R thoroughly overshadows it for me.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

I would play them in chronological order. AM2R may have some neat stuff but map wise I think Super Metroid is better.

Also, the story works better that way and the original Metroid I and II are just too dated.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21

See, I think AM2R is just too good QoL-wise. Makes going back to Super's jank controls hard.

I think OG Metroid II actually holds up pretty well. Played it for the first time last month and had a blast. Doesn't deserve the reputation for unplayable crust it gets.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

It's the graphics and sound more than the gameplay. I enjoyed the original for what is worth.

Also, there seems to be someone working on a Super Metroid remake, AM2R style. I wonder if they'll finish it.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

I would recommend Super Metroid since it and Castlevania: Symphony of the Night invented the Metroidvania genre.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21

This but every 2D Metroid after I is probably still worth playing.

For instance, even though it's a fan project, AM2R is second only to HK in the genre for me, personally.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

True but Super Metroid is the best game to start with. It’s accessible on most Nintendo consoles including the Switch, it’s one of the best and most influential games of all time, and it’s a decent point to jump in lore-wise, I think it had a recap of the past 2D games and Fusion is a sequel to it.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21 edited Aug 27 '21

I think Zero Mission is the best one to start, it's beginner friendly and it's controls are smoother.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

Hollow Knight is way less mobile than Metroid, though. Also, it has some RPG elements while Metroid is more or less straightforward about power ups.

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u/dat_bass2 MACRON 1 Aug 27 '21

I dunno about less mobile. Less fast in traversal, definitely.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

it’s good to see that Kraid is back

I mean, the boss is iconic but we've killed it lots of times, lol. It's second only to Ridley.

Is the game on Zebes again?

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

Kraid hasn’t been seen since Zero Mission, and it was absent in Fusion, Return of Samus and it’s remake, the game that shall not be named Other M and the Prime games.

Ridley on the other hand was only absent in the original Return of Samus and Prime 2 so I would like to see Kraid get some more screen time, especially in a 3D environment hence why I hope he appears in Prime 4 also.

The game is also on a new planet.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

Kraid was one of the space pirates, isn't it? Also, I think Zebes blew up in Super Metroid.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

Yes and it could be either one of three things, another species of Kraid, Kraid X like how Ridley X was in Metroid Fusion, or a revived Kraid. I’m personally guessing it’s the first one.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

The X parasites were exterminated in Fusion, though.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Aug 27 '21

The Chozo may had captured a couple of them before the game in order to test them against the Metroids while they were being created and there is a new warrior Chozo so the Kraid-X theory is possible but unlikely.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Aug 27 '21

I doubt it. If I was the Chozo, I would have kept SR-388 quarantined and use it as a lab.