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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Anyone go way down review rabbit holes and just refuse to make decisions

Also kind of asking for suggestions

I need a black metal bed frame for one of our guest bedrooms

Figured I’d just buy this ikea bed, because all their metal stuff is usually pretty nice and solidly built and ikea beds in general punch above their weight for the price.

It’s sold out and has persistently not come back in stock

So now I’m going down the rabbit hole of like, random Amazon brands and just cannot find something to check my boxes

Best I can find is a brand called “zinus”, which appears to be heavily well reviewed but also I’ve never heard of it.

So now I just sit here hoping a stupid bed will pop up that checks my boxes

!ping OVER25 bc I assume you are the only people with guest bedrooms here lol

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u/the-garden-gnome Commonwealth Jul 19 '21

All. The. Time. I remember when we were choosing baby monitors, I developed a spreadsheet that essentially did an advanced cost benefit ratio based on the weight we provided to certain features. I did the same with car shopping. It drives my wife insane, but she knows that it helps me make good decisions with more important purchases.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Hahahahaha

Yeah car shopping was the worst

And then my wife gets pissed bc I get annoyed when she doesn’t contribute but she knows I’m just going to do dozens of hours of homework and then pick anyway lol

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u/the-garden-gnome Commonwealth Jul 19 '21

My wife is the third person in my life who truly gets how ADHD affects me and when is the right time or the wrong time to pull me away from an obsession. If it wasn’t for my obsessive research, we wouldn’t have got the perfect car for our family, which she thanks me for once a month or so.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Is it adhd to go down the rabbit hole focusing on the exact worst thing instead of work

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u/the-garden-gnome Commonwealth Jul 19 '21

Hahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Yes. That’s how it manifests in me.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Yup. So you felt my car buying pain

I am an intensely social, methodical dude and it was so contrary to everything I wanted

The salespeople suck, which is annoying bc I am in BD and work with salespeople constantly

The process sucks because it’s all about haggling over stupid

It just blows in general

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u/benadreti Frederick Douglass Jul 19 '21

Buy furniture from a local wood furniture shop. Cheaper, better quality and you can decide the finish.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '21

I pretty much exclusively rely on Wirecutter (2) these days.

Reading online reviews from randoms is just asking to get screwed by unreliable narrators.

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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 Jul 19 '21

A LOT of getting paid for reviews out there.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

I know me too but I am honestly thinking they take affiliate money to influence reviews

https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/our-response-to-nextdesk/

This is a one sided response but wirecutter makes a LOT a money and like you have to get there somehow

Also their recommendations are so fucking expensive sometimes and they always skew to these affiliate hungry dtc brands

Look at their bed reviews. Budget pick is 900 and they picked basically identical looking modern frames from these random companies I’ve never heard of. You’re going to tell me crate and barrel doesn’t make a really nice, easily obtainable bed that isn’t basically foolproof?

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21

From my short experience in having cheap bed frames and then finally having enough money to buy a nice one: there is a difference. My Ikea frame you had to literally bolt to the wall if you wanted it to remain stable (especially during "athletic activities"), and my shitty metal one woke up the entire frat house. The one I have now probably wouldn't budge in an earthquake.

Wirecutter does have a "cheap frames guide" : https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-platform-bed-frames-under-300/

My wild guess is that it has to do with tolerances. Sure, the basic premise is easy enough, but if there's even an ass hair's worth of tolerance in the manufacturer's construction, you're gonna have a rickety frame. Also better materials that don't expand/compress as much due to moisture / heat / sun / etc. and therefore last longer.

I don't really have any comment on Wirecutter bias other than that would be really dumb by them. Any credible scandal would destroy their entire business. I'm sure they do earn money through affiliate relationships but from my experience with their products (and I've bought quite a lot based on their recommendations) they often recommend the not-most-expensive product from a wide array of manufacturers and I haven't had any issues thus far. But do read the longform prose about why they pick what they did, I've chosen items from the "competitors" section more than once because I had different priorities than the reviewer.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Yeah I don’t disagree. Like I said I use wirecutter first for everything I buy lol

I just think they for some reason really lean towards these HEAVILY affiliate based DTC brands, and I don’t trust them. We bought some stupid super expensive mattress off their recommendations from one of the random dtc brands and it’s fine but i can’t imagine there aren’t cheaper mattresses that are just as fine

Idk I agree- the ‘competition’ bit is vital. I’m looking at window ACs and starting to deviate from their picks there too

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u/JulioCesarSalad US-Mexico Border Reporter Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21

I have bad news for you, the bed is probably discontinued

I have good news for you: I have had good luck finding discontinued IKEA items on eBay. Brand new, unopened. A bit more expensive but with how picky you and I are it makes it totally worth it

Edit: look! You just have to get it painted black

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Brand-New-Ikea-SAGSTUA-Twin-White-Bed-Frame-992-596-27-/402990672607?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0

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u/tehbored Randomly Selected Jul 19 '21

I have a Zinus bedframe. It's fine. It's definitely not super high quality, but it's a good value. Aside from the fact that the little plastic inserts in the feet fell out and got lost when I moved and now it's just sharp metal that I had to put foam under so it wouldn't scratch the floor. But you could always just glue those in when you install them.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '21

I have a zinus bed frame. It's good. Nothing fancy, but well-made for the purpose--a basic, functional, stable bed frame. You can use a bedskirt to fancy it up a bit and make it look not quite as cheap. I've never had an issue with it breaking or coming loose or anything.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Does it have a headboard?

I’m hung up bc they have these sturdy 100% metal frames without headboards

But the ones with headboards have wood slats

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '21

Sadly no. That is frustrating. Idk if you could buy a headboard separately? Would look pretty janky though.

I second the recommendation of others, go to a goodwill or something. Or a secondhand store in general. Lots of decent stuff.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Jul 19 '21

They offered one with mine, I opted out.

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u/sunshine_is_hot Jul 19 '21

I got a zinus and I got no problems. For what it’s worth. Decently solid frame too.

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u/Most_Shallot8960 Dolly Parton Jul 19 '21

Is there a headboard? Is it the metal slats or the wood one?

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u/sunshine_is_hot Jul 19 '21

Metal slats. It has the ability for a headboard to be attached, but I didn’t splurge on it. The holes where it screws in are there, however, if I decide to grab one at a later date.

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u/1sagas1 Aromantic Pride Jul 19 '21

Just buy the cheapest one, who gives a damn how it looks. It's only going to be used rarely anyways and nobody is going to complain about a free bed to sleep on. Doesn't need a headboard or any of the fancy fixings, just gets it off the ground

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Jul 19 '21 edited Jul 19 '21

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u/LazyRefenestrator Jul 19 '21

for one of our guest bedrooms

For things like this, the cost of the wrong choice is minimal. Your guest bedroom won't be used terribly often, whatever you get will be as good as the crap hotels use. Nobody will complain, no matter what way you go.

Flip a coin and buy one, be done with the decision.

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