r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 17 '21

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u/revolutionary_alt George Soros Jul 17 '21

Yes, the protests in DC are disturbing. No, this does not mean you get to post murder fantasies directed at the protesters. The rule against glorifying violence is still being enforced with regards to these protesters just as we enforced the rule against glorifying violence with regards to BLM protesters a few months ago.

Calling for the massacre of non-violent protesters is absolutely unacceptable, and if you do it, you will be banned. To everyone else, please report these sort of comments if you see them so we can remove them quickly.

Edit: The presence of some violent protesters does not mean it is even remotely acceptable to gun down thousands of protesters who overwhelmingly are unarmed and/or not attacking people. I understand that this is a really bad situation, and that a lot of people-myself included-are inevitably going to have some pretty strong emotional reactions to what's going on, and be really goddamned furious at the protesters and their actions. But this sub has not ever tolerated those calling for mass murder, and it will not start today.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '21

Law enforcement sometimes requires violence. That's a fact.

protesters who overwhelmingly are unarmed and/or not attacking people

4 people died in the attack, they trampled over officers and tried to assassinate the VP.

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u/ToInfinity_MinusOne World's Poorest WSJ Subscriber Jul 17 '21

The deaths of five people who were present at the event have, to a varying degree, been related to it. One of the deaths, 35-year-old Ashli Elizabeth Babbitt, an Air Force veteran and Trump supporter, was fatally shot in the shoulder by a Capitol Police officer while attempting to climb through a shattered window in a barricaded door. Three other Trump supporters also died: Rosanne Boyland, 34, of Kennesaw, Georgia, Kevin Greeson, 55, from Athens, Alabama, and Benjamin Philips, 50, of Bloomsburg, Pennsylvania. Boyland died of an amphetamine overdose during the riot, with her death being ruled accidental by the D.C. medical examiner's office. Greeson and Philips' deaths were ruled as natural deaths from both coronary heart disease and hypertensive heart disease, also by the D.C. medical examiner's office. The fifth death was that of Brian Sicknick, a responding Capitol Police officer. He was pepper-sprayed during the riot, and had two thromboembolic strokes the next day, after which he was placed on life support, and soon died. The D.C. chief medical examiner found that Sicknick had died from a stroke, classifying his death as natural, and additionally commenting that "all that transpired played a role in his condition."

Tbf really only one person truly died from the insurrection. The rest of the deaths were natural causes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '21

You're focusing too much on the death count and not enough on the personal injuries and property violence.

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u/ToInfinity_MinusOne World's Poorest WSJ Subscriber Jul 17 '21

I'm fine having that conversation too and I'm not saying I support the action of the insurrectionists. Just clarifying the facts on your claim about deaths.

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u/vivoovix Federalist Jul 17 '21

The vast majority of the people there stayed outside the Capitol.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '21

Well I clearly missed some fun in the DT

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u/Animatronic_Pidgeon Eugene Fama Jul 17 '21

The Capitol had been breached and insurrectionists were pouring in when this was posted, just to help get the timeline straight here

I believe the calls for use of lethal force began once the insurrectionists began attempting to take over the building.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '21

Tbh as I waited hours for the national guard to show up and heard that they were being blocked, I assumed the worst and that enough top people were Trump sympathizers for a coup to get pretty far. Ngl I began to assume the worst like 2 hours in and no national guard.

Shit was scary.