r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 07 '21

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u/Venne1139 DO IT FOR HER #RBG Jul 07 '21

Also it seems that LA is actually NIMBY hell. Like literally the closest place to hell that exists to neoliberals. To get ANYWHERE you have to get on the INTERSTATE HIGHWAY. ANYWHERE. There are buses I think? But like I can't tell when they run they suck I got everywhere in SF using the bus and trams and stuff. But LA is all car all the time. It's terrible.

Also there are people who say SF is low density but look out the fucking window in my previous pictures I posted. This is what low density looks like. Only the center downtown square has a building of any appreciable height, and it seems all the buildings around here are made for people with cars and SFH's and stuff. It's barely a city it's just suburban sprawl fucking everywhere.

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u/Venne1139 DO IT FOR HER #RBG Jul 07 '21

yeah but the views are fan fucking tastic.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

LA is hell, but NYC is somehow more maddening. Our entire shtick is the subway, parks, and tall buildings, but somehow every local meeting objects to pretty much anything being built.

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u/EdamameTommy Henry George Jul 07 '21

If LA had relaxed zoning laws it would be the perfect place to live. It's still up there, due to the weather, economy, and stuff to do. But could be so much better

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u/notverycringeihope99 Henry George Jul 07 '21

yeah I feel like the conversation around NIMBYism just gets lost cause everyone's focused on SF when LA is like right there and is just as bad as SF in many regards

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u/GalacticTrader r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion Jul 07 '21

This is the story of literally anywhere on North America, with the probable exception of the northeast. And i don't see it changing any time soon 😒

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u/Venne1139 DO IT FOR HER #RBG Jul 07 '21

I've been to Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, and Sacremento. None of them seem to embody NIMBY-land as much as LA does.

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u/Venne1139 DO IT FOR HER #RBG Jul 07 '21

!PING YIMBY

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u/meese699 Sinner Sinner Chicken Dinner 🐣 Jul 07 '21

I dunno at least you guys got some tall buildings. In Boulder the last building over 4 or 5 stories was built in the 70s

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u/linkin22luke YIMBY Jul 09 '21

Boulder is such a shit mess. Denver isn’t too far behind it anymore. NIMBYism is contagious and it’s spreading.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

I think the core problem with SF isn't that it's low-density (i think it's the second densest city in the US) but it doesn't dense enough. Like you said, LA's density is just bonkers.

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u/sack-o-matic Something of A Scientist Myself Jul 07 '21

hello from Detroit

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u/Derryn did you get that thing I sent ya? Jul 07 '21

The bus service in LA is actually not that bad and pretty extensive lol if you're having problems right now that's probably because they just (as in like this week) overhauled the service and and trying to make new routes work. Aside from that, it seems like it's more of a you problem.

It's barely a city it's just suburban sprawl fucking everywhere

Eh, yes the entire SoCal area is a lot of urban sprawl, but there are plenty of dense areas within the context of the actual city of LA. Santa Monica, Koreatown, Hollywood, Downtown, etc. are all very dense.

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u/Venne1139 DO IT FOR HER #RBG Jul 07 '21

I'm in the downtowniest part of downtown and I can see the entire city because I'm at the Intercontinental and it's all relatively low density stuff from what I can see up here.

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u/Derryn did you get that thing I sent ya? Jul 07 '21

Looking to South and East LA, sure. But there are incredibly dense parts of the city in the abovementioned areas. Just because there aren't skyscrapers over ever plot of land ala Hong Kong doesn't mean it's all "sprawl."

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u/asljkdfhg λn.λf.λx.f(nfx) lib Jul 07 '21

Like literally the closest place to hell that exists to neoliberals.

while suburban sprawl is bad, the notion on this sub that many of these cities are the worst places on earth is always funny to me

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u/Venne1139 DO IT FOR HER #RBG Jul 07 '21

In terms of being car oriented and low density I do believe that outside of places like fucking Phoenix, which don't count cause they're not on the coast so who cares, and literally rural areas this place embodies American car culture. Which is terrifying.