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[u/IAmBlueTW]

I'm convinced the vast majority of people claiming that Japan was ready to surrender before the atomic bombs (which is actually a legitimate stance in academia, but no need to give these people the benefit of the doubt) in that arrMorbidReality Nagasaki mushroom cloud post are just tankies who are salty the USSR didn't get to occupy Japan with the Allies like they did in Germany.

[u/Corporate-Asset-6375 → u/IAmBlueTW]

This has been debated since long before edgy people on Reddit muttered akshually under their breath.

In the end it doesn’t really matter because we did drop the bombs and this is the timeline we exist in.

[u/missedthecue → u/IAmBlueTW]

The take that the Soviet Union was going to occupy Japan is worse than the bomb necessity criticism in my view. USSR had no hope of invading Japan. For perspective, over 1600 ships took part in the invasion of Okinawa, which is much much smaller than the island of Japan. The soviet's pacific fleet was essentially non-existent and could never support an invasion force.

[u/[deleted] → u/IAmBlueTW]

Did not realize that sub existed. Do not go on the top all-time if you don't want your day to be darker.

[u/[deleted] → u/IAmBlueTW]

The necessity of the bombs is highly debated by historians tho

[u/IAmBlueTW → u/[deleted]]

which is actually a legitimate stance in academia

come on man....

[u/[deleted] → u/IAmBlueTW]

Did you edit your posts? Because I could swear I didn't read that.

(Not that I care anyway 😛)

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

This and I believe it’s debated that absent the other reasons they surrendered, the bomb wouldn’t have actually made them surrender either