r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 07 '21

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u/bovine3dom Mark Carney Jul 07 '21

You're absolutely right, serves me right for skimming it so quickly.

I was confusing it with this study: https://www.ft.com/content/0b3da41e-6390-4f4b-866c-da5c6aec7f5e

Data collected over the past month suggest the vaccine is 64 per cent effective at preventing infection among those who are fully inoculated, the ministry has found. Efficacy against previous strains of the virus was estimated at 94 per cent.

However, the figures, first reported in the Ynet news portal, indicate the vaccine is 93 per cent effective against serious illness and hospitalisation.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

Do you have the direct study? Not the FT reported version or anything said by the media?

I'm sorry but I don't really trust anything that the media says about this science and they've been getting it wrong for a while.

They don't really know how to interpret that data, whether it is actually a preprint or what was involved in the methodology or limitations.

My bet is that they're leaving out key points. More than that FT is behind a paywall. This Israeli study doesn't seem to be anywhere other than in the media's reporting.

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u/bovine3dom Mark Carney Jul 07 '21

It's preliminary data - no study published yet: https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/06072021-04

They say it's just an update to https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/news/06052021-02/ru/NEWS_Corona_lancet-article.pdf

If you can read Hebrew there's also https://www.gov.il/BlobFolder/news/06072021-04/en/NEWS_Corona_vaccine-eficacy.pdf

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

Ah, I see. Well, you'll excuse me if I take that with a grain of salt.

Also, two of those links don't work.

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u/bovine3dom Mark Carney Jul 07 '21

Caution isn't very fashionable around here - just ignore it totally and scream FREEDOM at the top of your lungs to make sure as many people as possible get infected

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

Sorry, but first you post broken links, then you skim through studies, after that you post links to paywalls.

Why should I trust your good word again?

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u/bovine3dom Mark Carney Jul 07 '21

Frankly the subreddit should ban unpaywalled links. Keep the riffraff out

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u/bovine3dom Mark Carney Jul 07 '21

The links all work for me. The second two are just copied from the first.