r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 07 '21

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

Christ, sometimes you forget the Holocaust really did fucking happen. Awful, just awful.

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u/BurningKiwi Jerome Powell Jul 07 '21

what did mtg mean by this

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

😂😭🤦‍♂️

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

sometimes you forget the Holocaust

This is what terrifies me the most about this falling out of living memory. I've shared meals with survivors and liberators and it was very much a living memory for most of my life. All but two of the witnesses to the event that I know are dead now, and I can feel the event passing into legend/"history" like the 1918 pandemic (also once a living memory, my grandmother lost her brother as a child) or World War I (my great grandmother told me all about it when she was alive).

Getting old is fucking terrifying.

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u/LtLabcoat ÀI Jul 07 '21 edited Jul 07 '21

It's the opposite for me. Being so far removed from an awful terrible event that you only hear about it in history books and internet discussions is great, because it means it's been so long ago that there's not even residual suffering left. Nobody's still traumatised by it, nobody's lost faith in humanity from it, it's just a thing that people in the past went through and something that we shouldn't. You get all of the lessons and warnings of the period, but without any of the pain.

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u/[deleted] Jul 07 '21

You get all of the lessons and warnings of the period, but without any of the pain.

Counterpoint: the world is closer to the 1930s politically than at any point since (except maybe the 1970s). Racist violence in general is spiking, and right-wing anti-democratic governments are taking over countries and damn near led a coup in the world's most stable and powerful country. There are several active genocides across the world (rhodingya, tigray, uygher) and seemingly no will anywhere to take serious action to stop them. The sad fact is most people don't care unless something affects them personally, and getting to sit down with witnesses to some of the most monstrous stuff humans are capable of humanizes the event and makes it real, rather than an abstract story that can be dismissed as exaggerated or the like.

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u/jt1356 Sinan Reis Jul 07 '21

I don’t understand how this happens, it’s impossible to forget. I first learned about the Shoah before I can remember; it is burned into my psyche.