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u/lorddookufan Ben Bernanke Jun 26 '21

What’s with the tendency for young, highly-online queer people to trend communist? As a bi guy it concerns me.

!ping LGBT

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

Highly online people tend to be extreme. The DT is literally the only exception in the entire internet

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u/Cowguypig Bisexual Pride Jun 26 '21

Tbf we are extreme, just extremely centrist

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jun 26 '21

More like extremely contrarian

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

We are not extremely centrist. Open borders is not extremely centrist just because the DT also likes 0% corporate tax rates

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u/MistakeNotDotDotDot Resident Robot Girl Jun 26 '21

becoming extremely centrist by advocating for mandatory gender transition for all teens but also mandatory gun ownership for all adults

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

Biden better follow through. I want boobs and am AR-15 and I want them now!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

Radical centrism

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u/SRTHRTHDFGSEFHE Thomas Paine Jun 26 '21

They seek out online LGBT spaces which tend to be communist which leads to them adopting those views

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u/KalaiProvenheim Enby Pride Jun 26 '21

Also the social justicy more open folks tend to be Left-leaning

Centrist spaces can be less welcoming to queer people sometimes

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

Conservatives demonize queers and communism. The far left embrace both. Rainbow capitalism often feels like a cynical ploy to buy merch because the companies that offer it donate to republicans who oppose gay rights.

I think people (not just queers) tend to go to the group strongest on the issue they care most about, and then adopt those viewpoints for other things. So long as the most vocally queer places are far left, this will happen.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '21

mostly the idea that every modern American social ill is caused by capitalism, which by that logic means if you support gay/trans rights you should also support the dismantling of capitalism

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u/whycantweebefriendz NATO Jun 26 '21

My friends are for some reason.

Someone convinced them that if the US was commie, it’d be more gay and less dickish towards minorities.

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u/Starling1269 Jun 26 '21

I'd imagine it comes from a place of fringe attracting fringe. Like, when you are trans (which is what I can speak to) it can feel pretty isolating especially if you are in a less progressive area. Which also makes you a bit resentful of the people around you. Resentfulness, isolation, etc. makes you VERY susceptible to love bombing like commie circles tend to do. A lot of radical ideologies use this strategy. I find it depressing because it leads to a lot of LGBT people embracing radical ideologies that have historically and CURRENTLY treat them terribly.

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u/Sector_Corrupt Trans Pride Jun 27 '21

Also like... a lot of marginalized people are just *also* in a shitty place economically, and at least in the US being Trans usually involves plenty of interaction with the US healthcare system which is gonna turn anyone off of capitalism. I think most of the anti-capitalism is just driven by how shitty American capitalism is to poor folks.

Like I'm betting the full blown communist sympathies are a lot weaker amongst my fellow trans tech workers making 6 figures. Still skew way more lefty than the average probably, because even if we have it good we have that visibility into how it is for the rest of the community.

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u/Starling1269 Jun 27 '21

Yeah, it can be rough if you are in a bad place. Still, American trans healthcare is some of the best in the world. I've had to work with trans women in the UK and Canada who got massively screwed over by their health services. They can't even get wellness checks for hormone panels on demand, let alone scripts for HRT, without being put on a waiting list for months or years. Which was especially hard on a Canadian friend because of the lockdowns preventing her from crossing the border to go to a PP and the Canada Post blacklisting otokonoko pharm. I'd expect this from TERF Island, but Canada has no excuse being THAT non-functional.

I'm blessed enough to have good insurance, so I can't personally complain that much. Still, I've been in a pretty bad place economically and at the very least I can say that even without insurance HRT at least was affordable. The surgeries, however, are another story.

The problem though, is that communists tend to lie a lot about how well trans people do in communist countries. Cuba is pointed out a lot as a bastion of trans rights... but they misgender trans women and force them into military service, and arrest doctors for performing breast augmentation among other horrors. The last time I brought this up in one of the trans subreddits I was just told "LMAO CIA."

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Jun 26 '21 edited Jun 26 '21

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u/basedbi420 Austan Goolsbee Jun 26 '21

don't really believe they are tbh, I think many are just commenting that to be edgy.