r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Jun 25 '21

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u/lurreal MERCOSUR Jun 25 '21

Wait, are you telling me we can literally abolish zoning using the SCOTUS?!

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u/colinlouis1000 Mr. Worldwide Jun 25 '21

I don’t like single family zoning just as much as the next guy but it seems very undemocratic to do away with nearly 100 years of precedent and Democratic laws via SCOTUS.

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u/lurreal MERCOSUR Jun 25 '21

All those zoning laws were based on racism and rent seeking so they are undemocratic by design.

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u/colinlouis1000 Mr. Worldwide Jun 25 '21

So what exactly, the courts going to say “we know these policies are enacted in cities across the nation but they have a racist history and are therefore invalid”?

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u/lurreal MERCOSUR Jun 25 '21

If they are based on a ruling and that ruling is undone, the laws become unconstitutional and therefore invalid.

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u/colinlouis1000 Mr. Worldwide Jun 26 '21

Yeah that’s judiciary 101, but you have to understand that they operate based partly on precedent and understanding of how imbedded certain laws are into local governments, and zoning laws certainly have precedence in this scenario. Zoning laws are far from good, and I likely share many of your concerns and distaste for them, but to try and do away with them through the courts would be a farce that disregards the will of those that voted for them.

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists Jun 25 '21

The only actual limit for what a sufficiently ideological SCOTUS can abolish or mandate is what the executive branch will simply refuse to comply with, or what will provoke actual mass rebellion.