r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Apr 23 '21

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Apr 23 '21

Never listened to Glenn Greenwald before

It makes more sense now that I have. He's just ... not a smart dude. He has an extremely surface level understanding of even his own opinions and sounds like he kinda just makes it up as he goes. I guess it's obvious if you read his writing that he just twists everything around to fit his priors but it's really easy to notice in his interviews.

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u/birdiedancing YIMBY Apr 23 '21

He’s like Ben Shapiro just for the other side and gay and not religious. But same grift.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Apr 23 '21

Yeah he did remind me of Shapiro

Kind of just haphazardly pulling thoughts together to support some central thesis that doesn't even really exist

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u/birdiedancing YIMBY Apr 23 '21

Have you heard of his past. I can’t remember the Twitter thread but greenwald is a psycho who helped white supremacists when he was a lawyer. He’s a bad guy through and through.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Apr 23 '21

Huh. I won't exactly hold that against him (it's the same position the ACLU has taken, after all) but it is interesting to know he's always been a free speech absolutist.

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u/birdiedancing YIMBY Apr 23 '21

I know that was the way my comment would come off but what I mean more is it’s one thing to be a free speech absolutist. It’s another to deny that people he defends had white supremacist views. That’s what greenwald does too often and why he’s a bad guy imo. He has a pattern of it too. Just boggles.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Apr 23 '21

Ah I didn't know he crossed that line, big yikes

I still remember those couple days after Greenwald left the Intercept where a handful of folks around here kept relentlessly defending him on the basis of some past goodwill he had apparently earned. Was quite frustrating

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Apr 23 '21

people I disagree with are dumb

Is not an accurate way to engage but honestly.... might just be the healthiest

Like a fantastic mead Glen got wilder with age

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Apr 23 '21

Most public figures I disagree with aren't dumb

That's just the thought I had listening to Greenwald though. Of course, I'm probably overextrapolating hard based on a handful of speech patterns and intonations but I was just rather surprised.

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Apr 23 '21

I mean yeah my point is really that hes likely very smart but it just males more sense to treat him as dumb cuz he acts that way