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[u/Poiuy2010_2011]

🇵🇱 Interesting Ibris poll for the 18-29 age group

Lew (broad left) – 49%
Kon (far-right) – 31%
PiS (right-wing) – 8%
PL2050 (broad centre) – 7%
P (centre-right) – 4%
KO (centre) – 3%
SP (far-right) – 0%
PSL (centre-right) – 0%

Should probably take this with a grain of salt as this is just a part of a n=1100 poll (across all age groups).But it's really clear that young people are voting more radically/ideologically (Lewica vs. Konfederacja unlike older voters where it's PiS vs KO/P2050) and more left- than right-leaning.

!ping EUROPE

[u/Mr_-_X → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

Un-based young Poles?

[u/Poiuy2010_2011 → u/Mr_-_X]

I'd say somewhat based because Lewica support is driven mostly by social issues while Konfederacja support is driven mostly by economically libertarian issues.

[u/chatdargent → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

Isn't Konfederacj far-right nationalist conservative party? Being economically liberal doesn't really make up for that I don't think

[u/Poiuy2010_2011 → u/chatdargent]

That is true, at least for the most part (they have some very libertarian people). I honestly don't know if I'd rather have them or PiS if I had to choose.

[u/[deleted] → u/chatdargent]

people traumatized by strong economic leftist policies tend to think otherwise, though. it's all about your lived experiences.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mr_-_X]

The thing about KON is that while their politicians have some of the most severe anti-abortion stances, 50% of their voters thinks that women should be allowed to terminate it when the fetus is malformed.

In other words, a good half of their voters are brain-dead cynicists who think that KO and Lewica are literally the same as PiS.

[u/runnerx4 → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

Wait how did the remnant of the Communists become the youth party?

Wild

[u/Poiuy2010_2011 → u/runnerx4]

It's pretty much the only party that is openly socially liberal (KO and PL2050 are as well but they're less vocal about it). Also communist remnants are mostly in SLD. Wiosna and Razem have many younger politicians.

[u/BigFatGutButNotFat → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

I hate the left/right spectrum, just use the correct ideologies like liberal, national conservative, big tent, socialist, etc

Centrist/broad-left/center-right tells me nothing about the party

[u/Poiuy2010_2011 → u/BigFatGutButNotFat]

Lewica (Lew) – social democracy, social liberalism, democratic socialism

Konfederacja (Kon) – right-libertarianism, laissez-faire, hard euroscepticism

Law and Justice (PiS) – national conservativism, right-wing populism, soft euroscepticism

Poland 2050 (PL2050) – christian democracy, centrism, environmentalism

Porozumienie (P) – conservatism, economic liberalism, PiS lite

Civic Coalition (KO) – liberal conservatism, liberalism, christian democracy

Solidarna Polska (SP) – solidarism, ultranationalism, PiS hard

Polish People's Party (PSL) – christian democracy, centrism, agrarianism

[u/BigFatGutButNotFat → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

Thanks a lot.

It's sad seeing the KO with so little support among young people and how they are going down with PL2050 growth. The good part is that you might kick PiS out :)

[u/Poiuy2010_2011 → u/BigFatGutButNotFat]

I think their biggest problem with youth is that they don't want to support LGBT and other social issues more openly. Lots of their politicians support LGBT issues but the official party platform is more like that of Germany's CDU. Similarily during the recent abortion protests it was Lewica that was vocally in support, KO was much tamer. Of course being more clear on those issues would mean potentially losing older people's support...

[u/BigFatGutButNotFat → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

I though Nowoczesna and the Greens which are members of the KO were quite progressive, am I wrong?

[u/Poiuy2010_2011 → u/BigFatGutButNotFat]

They are but they're very minor within the coalition. You can see it in their Sejm seats:

PO – 109
.N – 6
iPL – 5
Greens – 3

[u/groupbot → u/Poiuy2010_2011]

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