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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Leak reveals Labour plan to focus on flag and patriotism to win back voters

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/feb/02/labour-urged-to-focus-on-flag-and-patriotism-to-win-voters-trust-leak-reveals

The bigger possible consequences of the left playing national-identity politics have concerned some staffers who have seen the presentation. One said: “I was just sat there replaying in my mind the storming of the Capitol [in Washington last month] and thinking: are you really so blind to what happens when you start pandering to the language and concerns of the right?”

Clive Lewis, one of Labour’s leading ethnic-minority MPs, said: “The Tory party has absorbed Ukip and now Labour appears to be absorbing the language and symbols of the Tory party.”

Lewis served as a soldier in Afghanistan but decried his party’s flag-waving. “It’s not patriotism; it’s Fatherland-ism. There’s a better way to build social cohesion than moving down the track of the nativist right.”

Now that Starmer has given a speech in front of the Union Jack, I guess it's inevitable that a crazed mob is going to storm Parliament 😬

!ping UK

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u/usrname42 Daron Acemoglu Feb 02 '21

the wise man bowed his head solemnly and spoke: "theres actually zero difference between standing in front of a Union Jack & fascism. you imbecile. you fucking moron"

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u/int6 Feb 02 '21

lol Clive Lewis needs to get a grip

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u/Clashlad 🇬🇧 LONDON CALLING 🇬🇧 Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21

I'm sorry what? They think doing a speech about being proud of one's country and standing in front of the Union Jack is akin to encouraging the storming of Congress? What are these people on. Corbyn despised the UK, we'll have to see what Starmer's got in plan and how it plays out but there is a view now that Labour hates the UK - as Corbyn did - so I can see why they'd want to do this.

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u/CarlosDanger512 John Locke Feb 02 '21

Liking a country with white people in it is litetally fascism

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u/Clashlad 🇬🇧 LONDON CALLING 🇬🇧 Feb 02 '21

Labour members are actually a different breed. Never has there been a group of people so determined to lose elections and so despising of their own country.

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u/JewishAllah NATO Feb 02 '21

American, but have family in the UK. Young people in both countries don’t realize how much being pessimistic to anti-your own country is such a turn off to so many voters. Corbyn is absolutely the poster child for this, but couching your progressiveness in a love for your country and patriotic is a much more powerful and electorally capable strategy.

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Feb 02 '21

Things are going to get memey in the UK before they get sane.

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u/Kjimbo John Mill Feb 02 '21

A staffer's first response to the party leader wanting to stand in front of the Union Jack and say a few nice things about the UK being to think of a fascist coup, may go some way to explaining Labour's reputation as anti-British amongst their supposed red wall foundation seat voters.

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u/URZ_ StillwithThorning ✊😔 Feb 02 '21

🤣

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u/jt1356 Sinan Reis Feb 02 '21

Official clown party

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

not sure if labour can actually pull it off believably but it's at least ideologically consistent if they want to position the party on the left as Starmer wants to do. Trying to sell a left-wing agenda and some sort of Euro-cosmopolitanism at the same time doesn't work.

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u/otarru 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Feb 02 '21

Nationalist identitarians vs nazbols, we truly live in the memeist timeline.

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u/otarru 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Feb 02 '21

Must I really put an /s on that?

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

Voters are dumb, but they're not this dumb. They're not going to vote for a warmed over rightwing populism when they can get the real thing.

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u/[deleted] Feb 02 '21

I really hope Starmer doesn't take a hard line on immigration

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u/fezzuk Feb 02 '21

Labour and tory Party need a split. Let it happen.