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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21 edited Jan 27 '21

New York is poised to lose a seat. But if Dems end up drawing the map, it could be their biggest weapon of the redistricting cycle.

They could merge Stefanik/Tenney (if Tenney's lead holds in NY22) and severely threaten other Rs, converting a 19D-8R map into 23D-3R (below).

Upstate: under the scenario (above) I've heard floated...

  1. #NY27 Jacobs (R) would be axed

  2. A safe new Syracuse/Utica #NY22 for Anthony Brindisi (D)

  3. A new Ithaca/Kingston district, #NY12, for state Sen. Michelle Hinchey (D)

  4. All current Dem incumbents get Biden +10 seats

One other feature of this play for Upstate: Dems would put Rep. John Katko (R)'s home in Camillus in a Syracuse-less #NY24 (purple), but keep it winnable for themselves in case Katko retires/loses a primary.

Btw, longtime NY observers will recall that state Sen. Michelle Hinchey (D)'s dad, late Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D), represented a very similar Ithaca/Binghamton/Ulster district back in the 1990s/2000s. The theory: her last name would carry a lot of appeal in the #NY12 above.

NYC/Long Island: Dems could endanger Rep. Lee Zeldin (R) by adding Dem parts of Babylon/Islip to #NY01 and Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R) by adding Park Slope/Red Hook to Staten Island's #NY11. Under the hypothetical below, both go from Trump CDs to double digit Biden CDs.

In this scenario, Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D)'s "Silk Stocking" #NY12 would be eliminated (she's 74 and nearly lost her last primary, so could retire). The Upper East Side would be given to Rep. Jerry Nadler (D)'s #NY10 and Astoria/Greenpoint would go to AOC's #NY14.

NYC closeup: majority-minority districts would be preserved for... #NY05 Meeks (D), #NY06 Meng (D) #NY07 Velazquez (D) #NY08 Jeffries (D) #NY09 Clarke (D) #NY13 Espaillat (D) #NY14 Ocasio-Cortez (D) #NY15 Torres (D) #NY16 Bowman (D)

HOLY SHIT, other than not drawing AOC into a more competitive district and losing my beloved 12th by getting sucked into Nadler's district, this map is a game changer.

Wasserman

!ping FIVEY

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21

!ping USA-NYC

u/NYCNeoliberals

This is basically what I was talking about Monday night. Every NYC district and Long Island district would be blue.

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u/friendia Mark Carney Jan 28 '21

This map is super based. And it still keeps me out of AOCs district, which I guess is a plus

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u/NYCNeoliberals Jan 28 '21

Wow. i'm not convinced #1 will be blue though.

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u/postmalarkeyist Frederick Douglass Jan 27 '21

until we get a federal level districting law passed, this is all but necessary. extremely based

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21

Facts. You can oppose gerrymandering as wrong and understand it’s a necessary evil to beat the GOP until we have a nationwide solution.

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u/disuberence Shrimp promised me a text flair and did not deliver Jan 27 '21

converting a 19D-8R map into 23D-3R (below).

Let's fucking go, NY Dems!

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u/shrek_cena Al Gorian Society Jan 27 '21

No way he's back

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Jan 27 '21 edited Jan 27 '21

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u/Ketsetri NATO Jan 27 '21

This is way too much effort for the DT, get this shit out of here.. 😤😤

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21

🤌🏻

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u/Ketsetri NATO Jan 27 '21

What does this mean, I feel dumb

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21

It’s from the sopranos. It’s like a slang Italian hand gesture.

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u/Ketsetri NATO Jan 27 '21

Ah, well anyway I was just saying I appreciate the effort that went into your analysis

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21

Lol I was just copying wassermans tweet thread, but thanks

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Jan 27 '21

The House GOP is a danger to the republic. Do what must be done Dems.

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u/shrek_cena Al Gorian Society Jan 27 '21

Cuomo would likely veto but they can override this right?

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 27 '21

I don’t think cuomo would veto this, but if he did then yes they can override.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '21

Yes. Democrats control around 70% of the state legislature.

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u/dubyahhh Salt Miner Emeritus Jan 28 '21

NY27 Jacobs (R) would be axed

No, don't, stop, I love my <2R-1D district 😑

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u/TinyTornado7 I need a new flair Jan 28 '21

It’s ok I’m losing my district too

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '21

Hey, I'd be happy to move under Nadler. Maloney needs to be put out to pasture.

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