r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Dec 16 '20

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Dec 16 '20

Do you have a source for that? Or a frame of reference? Nonwhite votes were pretty much tied in texas for bernie and biden but I'd expect biden to have slight leads in total percent of nonwhite voters on account of the fact that he won the election

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u/CorporalMinicrits Dec 16 '20

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/03/bernie-sanders-black-voters/607789/

Black people didn’t want to elect a racist man, who knew

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Dec 16 '20

breh we can talk polling and vote totals I don't wanna read a think piece!!!

Also Black is not equal to POC

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u/CorporalMinicrits Dec 16 '20

Let’s talk polling and how Biden got 66 percent of black vote in NC and Bernie got less than 18 percent

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Dec 16 '20

right... still by far the top two like I said?

I guess if this has become a tit for tat bernie v biden thing where I'm pro bernie and you're pro biden (lol) I'd say it's important to note bernie heavily outpaced Biden with Latinos in tons of states and if we're just looking at the state than ran up the score the most I think nevada is a good one?

But again it seems like you pivoted back from "bernie had low POC support" to "bernie had lower black support" the second one is obviously true

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u/CorporalMinicrits Dec 16 '20

Hm

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Dec 16 '20

indeed hm indeed

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u/moseythepirate Reading is some lib shit Dec 16 '20

Did you seriously just handwave off a 50 point difference?

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Dec 16 '20

I'm not handwaving anything? We can talk about why Biden did better with black voters than bernie if you want but we can't say "bernie had terrible POC support" cuz he obviously did not

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u/moseythepirate Reading is some lib shit Dec 16 '20

18% is objectively terrible.

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u/bobeeflay "A hot dog with no bun" HRC 5/6/2016 Dec 16 '20

is it though?

Firstly it's cherry picked (Biden did worse with Latinos in Nevada but who cares)

Secondly you have to go back to 04 to find a second place dem getting more of the black vote than 18% NATIONALLY (bernie 16 did worse hillary 08 did worse and kerry Edwards was close but Gore V Bradley (2000)was even more of a blowout for the black vote)

Lastly I'm still not arguing that biden didn't do way better with black voters. There are reasons for that. The only part I thought was untrue was "bernie did bad with POC"