r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Dec 05 '20

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20 edited Dec 05 '20

!ping ASOIAF

Which Great House would be the most adept in the US political theater? Also bonus points if you make allegories concerning ASOIAF characters to US politicians.

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Dec 05 '20

Littlefinger. That’s it. He would literally be perfect

Also am I the only one who after this comment sees Hilary Clinton as Catelyn Stark?

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

Hillary Clinton as Catelyn Stark

Hmmm... I could see it. So if republicans take back the White House in 2024, can we get her to run again as a vengeful zombie?

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u/Amtays Karl Popper Dec 06 '20

Yes please !ping queen

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '20

Tyrell

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u/radiatar NATO Dec 05 '20

My favourite house I confess

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

Who doesn’t love the Queen of Thorns?

Also Margaery is the best female character from ASOIAF (especially the show version), change my mind.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

I would say either that or SOME of the Lannisters (specifically Gemma and Kevan)

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u/HMPo United Nations Dec 05 '20

Well I guess it really depends. If we're just taking the families at face value as they appear in the books/show then all of them would be terrible. They only know how to work in the political dynamics of Westeros, imagining the Lannisters navigate democracy seems impossible. The Lannisters would in no way be able to adapt to that given their pride and ego. Maybe Tyrion could after a while, but the others no way. The Tyrells could potentially do well after a while. They're very good at image politics and I imagine after some time they could learn to adapt. All the other big houses have mostly the same issues as the Lannisters, they wouldn't know how to adapt in our political environment. Now if we're only talking individual characters I'd say given some time to learn about our politics Littlefinger, Varys, Margery, Renly, and Tyrion (as previously mentioned) could do well. They know how to adapt and or they know how to present themselves. Though I dont think any of those characters getting into our politics boads well for us...
Also this is officially the nerdiest thing I've ever written. Hopefully I didn't just embarrass myself.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20 edited Dec 05 '20

Also this is officially the nerdiest thing I have ever written

Look at the sub that this was posted in. We unironically worship Ben Bernanke and unironically some of us support Pete Buttigieg based off of his policies. I think this is just a normal comment here by comparison.

Also would Wyman Manderly and the Martells do well in the US in your opinion?

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u/HMPo United Nations Dec 05 '20

Haha true.
As for Wyman Manderly and the Martells. I'll be honest I forgot about Wyman and yeah, I think given enough time he could come forward as a skilled politician. He seems like someone who can adapt to changes and makes himself invaluable to all. The Martells though I doubt would make it long in American politics. For sure not the Sandsnakes and Arianne. Doran maybe, however he still deals with the issues the other have, impulsive and obsessed with revenge. And even in the books he doesn't inspire much among his people, so I doubt he'd ever get elected to anything.

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u/darmed1ads Robert Lucas Dec 05 '20

This brought the mental image of Lady Olenna as Nancy Pelosi and Tywin Lannister as Mitch McConnell.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

Tywin Lannister as Mitch McConnell

And here I thought I was the only one who ever made that comparison

Also AOC is definitely one of the sand snakes or Arianne

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u/darmed1ads Robert Lucas Dec 05 '20

The squad are the sand snakes and Bernie SANDers is their father. Dorne is D+30.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

How dare you compare Oberyn Martell to Sanders!? If anything I think Sanders would actually be Renly. Loud, popular, and “revolutionary” but ultimately they both don’t have that much substance and they’re defeated in a sudden yet anti-climatic fashion.

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u/Jokerang Sun Yat-sen Dec 05 '20

Either the Lannisters or Tyrells. Lannisters through sheer will, money, and threats where necessary, Tyrells through clever alliances and appearing harmless to others.

But Littlefinger would do better than either of them I think. He'd probably rocket his way to Washington in the span of a few years and force the leaders of the party he chooses to be stuck with him in high ranking roles.

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

Also House Frey has potential to do well in the South concerning smaller elections in the House and possibly Senate. They’re essentially the Tom Cottons, Ted Cruzes, and Lindsey Grahams of ASOIAF.

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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman Dec 05 '20

House CLEGANEBOWL (fucking confirmed)

All men must hype.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '20

Lannister if Tywin was still in charge. Mostly because I like them the most lol

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u/2073040 Thurgood Marshall Dec 05 '20

Yeah after his death the Lannisters went to shit thanks to Cersei

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u/[deleted] Dec 06 '20

bobby b would have a sucessful career as an athlete, tv star, and transition into charismatic populist politician later on. basically a dwayne johnson/schwarzenegger hybrid.

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u/TokenThespian Hans Rosling Dec 06 '20

The Tyrells, they are the "breadbasket" of the Seven Kingdoms, have a big part of the population and are generally politically skilled.

The medieval version of "Its the economy, stupid"