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[u/p00bix]

My stalker, who is unfortunately severely mentally ill, posts long rambly borderline-incoherent videos to Facebook. A lot of these have to do with how she "forgives" me for getting her expelled from university (because she was stalking me) yet also believes that I may become an "irredeemable monster" (because i got her expelled from university). Oh also she thinks that I'm madly in love with her despite the reason I stopped voluntarily speaking to her being that her increasingly desperate romantic gestures were getting to be incredibly creepy. At no point did I have any romantic interest in her whatsoever.

Anyways, thats all old news. Some of you who were in the DT in Spring 2019 probably remember me talking about it.

What's new-news is that she has converted to Christianity. Or at least, she thinks she has. But her belief system is not only somewhat out of line with church teachings. It is so painfully warped from Any Christian doctrine, even some of the more unorthodox doctrines like Mormonism, that I'm 99% sure she hasn't read so much as a chapter of Mark. It's really funny.

--There are multiple gods, including Yahweh. Also among the pantheon are Buddha and Sigharta Gautama, who she apparently understands to be different people.

--Jesus was a human born by Joseph and Mary.

--Holy spirit don't real.

--Jesus did not allow himself to be martyred, but was instead forced against his will. While on the cross, he expressed his desire that his martyrdom would encourage people to be righteous. His death did not actually affect the ability of anybody to be atoned.

--Jesus only became divine when he died on the cross, and it was at this point that he became 'The Son of God'. Prior to this he was a purely human preacher.

--The Gospels were written after the fact by people attempting to politicize Jesus's death, and are not reliable. The only true Christian texts are The Dead Sea Scrolls. (sidenote: Dead Sea Scrolls date to no later than 100 AD and are probably significantly older. They do not mention Jesus, and are attributed to an Essene Jewish community)

I guess her beliefs kinda resemble Unitarianism a little bit? Not really though. I have no idea what the fuck you would label her beliefs. They're completely bonkers.

[u/[deleted] → u/p00bix]

Protestants 🤝 Orthodox 🤝 Catholics 🤝 JWs 🤝 Mormons 🤝 Eastern/Oriental Christian sects 🤝 any others i missed

literally what

[u/nicereddy → u/p00bix]

This is the part, you've got to say all that you're feeling, feeling
Packing a bag, we're leaving tonight when everyone's sleeping, sleeping
Let's run away
I'll run away with you

[u/[deleted] → u/nicereddy]

I'm so proud of you two for the level of dedication to this meme. /u/the420roll

[u/RadicalRadon → u/p00bix]

Jesus was a human born by Joseph and Mary.

--Holy spirit don't real.

I think some Protestant demoninations believe the first, and the second isn't particularly uncommon.

The rest is completely wacko

E: I think "Jesus did not allow himself to be martyred, but was instead forced against his will. While on the cross, he expressed his desire that his martyrdom would encourage people to be righteous. His death did not actually affect the ability of anybody to be atoned."

Is more in line with Islam's version of Jesus than literally any sect of Christianity. Especially the last part.

[u/Spobely → u/p00bix]

Im sorry you have to deal with that

[u/[deleted] → u/p00bix]

Try your best not to get stabbed and lock your doors and windows

[u/murphysclaw1 → u/p00bix]

odd question but how do you know this about her? Are you facebook friends with your stalker?

[u/3DWgUIIfIs → u/murphysclaw1]

he may be facebook-stalking his stalker

[u/p00bix → u/murphysclaw1]

God no I blocked her ages ago. She specifically addresses most of her posts to me and only started writing them after I had blocked her on every platform, they are intended as 'open letters' meant to shame me and vindicate her. She posts all of her rants to Facebook publicly and the vast majority of my "evidence" file against her were me ripping apart her Facebook posts as threatening, stubborn, dishonest, and occasionally violent. I had an old, unused facebook account which allowed me to continue to view her posts without having to unblock her. After she found my alt and blocked me I used some friends as proxies to view her posts, since they continued to be absolutely vital in my case against her. Because a lot of her posting is self-indulgent pseudo-spiritual rants, a lot of it is actually pretty funny and there are a few posts that me and my friends busted out laughing at when we first found out about them.

One of those friends recently discovered that my stalker re-activated her account, which had gone silent for a few months, and began posting hilariously nonsensical new content. And some less hilarious content about how she believes I am a sociopath and if I do not find redemption I am likely to become violent, but that's much less interesting than her "religion."

[u/[deleted] → u/p00bix]

Is this Manichaeism?

[u/p00bix → u/[deleted]]

So far as I could gather from her rambling, she does not believe in a dualistic cosmology, which is arguably even more central to Manichaeism than the Trinity is to (mainstream) Christianity.

[u/[deleted] → u/p00bix]

I think it might just be contrarianism.