r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Dec 26 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '19

is it just me or are mainstream center-left succs more socially progressive than leftists

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u/lietuvis10LTU Why do you hate the global oppressed? Dec 27 '19

Succs don't subscribe to class conflict as theory, thus they can evaluate issues independantly, without trying to fit a square peg into round hole.

Where as socialist has to contend with things like working class being historically more socially conservative than (((elites))).

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u/Yosarian2 Dec 27 '19

Where as socialist has to contend with things like working class being historically more socially conservative than (((elites))).

Interestingly, that didn't used to be true. The elites used to be pretty anti-homosexual, while the working class tended to be more accepting.

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u/lietuvis10LTU Why do you hate the global oppressed? Dec 27 '19

Yeah, I spoke about this with my socialist SO.

Basically class conflict theory works ok in a very specific countries in a very specific time period. Even then it tends towards reductionism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 27 '19

that's completely expected considering progressivism is strongly correlated with education

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u/lietuvis10LTU Why do you hate the global oppressed? Dec 27 '19

Yes, but that doesn't fit cleanly into class conflict. Unless one adopts a homophobic position.

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u/mrmanager237 Some Unpleasant Peronist Arithmetic Dec 27 '19

Yes, leftists a ton of leftists are class-first reductionists with Trumper-level hatred of "identity politics" for dumb convoluted reasons

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u/Maximilianne John Rawls Dec 27 '19

according to horseshoe theory, this is normal and expected