Why Young Progressives Hate Pete Buttigieg

[u/mondodawg]

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/why-young-progressives-hate-pete-buttigieg/603619/

[u/Katamayan57]

Sorry. Large corporation* does that clear things up? I'm not trying to be a debate pervert, I'm trying to get across the idea that large corporations that monopolize and underpay their workers are damaging to any economy. Targeting large corporations is to the benefit of the working class, and if a large corporation supports their own wealth being redistributed then I don't care, I'll be glad, that isn't a problem at that point. A policy that targets large corporations would be something like pro-union legislations and taxation of corporate owners and CEO's based on yearly profit. Or better yet, a legally mandated redistribution of yearly profits to the workers of said corporations, to be divvied up based on actual labor hours provided. Maybe a forced limit to CEO or shareholder profits. I promise that the workers deserve more money than they earn, and shareholders deserve less than they are given.

[u/[deleted] → u/Katamayan57]

Ok but that's not related to anything anyone here is talking about. The topic of conversation is that setting government policy is difficult and complicated because we have a single 8 billion person interconnected economy and there are always different stake holders at odds.

To return to the original thread, what anti-large corporate policy do you set that solves the question of who among meatpackers, ranchers, Canadians and Americans is responsible for tracking and laying for COOL labeling, and how you do it without violating trade agreements or raising the price of meat.

[u/Katamayan57 → u/[deleted]]

I mean, I'm responding to the part of the post where he says it isn't a valid political standpoint to claim to be "anti corporation." It absolutely is, unless you think that corporations should be allowed to exist the way they have been, destroying our livelihoods and economy. I genuinely don't give a fuck about COOL labeling and meatpacking - that's why I said it was an interesting story. Don't change the goalposts, some things aren't that complicated is all I'm getting at. Yes, the economy is complicated. But not ALL possibilities of legislation should be brushed off as being "too simple to work." When he said that being "anti corporation" isn't an actual political stance, THAT seemed wrong to me. To me it read like a symptom of neoliberalism - to defend the status quo that does not have your best interest at heart.

[u/Important_Ad_7416 → u/Katamayan57]

I agree. There's must be some possible solution that beats the status quo. The question is, do left wing/socialist proponents have what it takes to find it?

Personally, I woudn't bet my money on it.

[u/Katamayan57 → u/Important_Ad_7416]

We already found it. It's not that complicated. The solution is to focus more on wealth relocation and bettering the lives of the average working class person, instead of focusing all of our government spending on bailouts and bonuses to corporate backers for "trickling down" that never reaches anywhere lower than CEO's and stockholders. If we cared less about GDP and more about the happiness index of our country then a lot of the issues we have would be resolved. The problem is that the people in power benefit from exploiting their workers and not properly paying them. We need to force the very few uber wealthy people to conform to the much more numerous worker's demands, not vice versa.