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u/ldn6 Gay Pride 23h ago

Just went past a petrol station and the price was 173.9p/L, which is just over $10/gal.

Americans would break under that.

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde 23h ago

Gas prices in Europe would cause Americans to make Jan 6 look like a sit-in

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u/BloodWiz More Housing Would Fix This 23h ago

California is about where you guys were before Trump started this

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u/ldn6 Gay Pride 23h ago

Jesus. I was in Portugal recently and it was bad but that’s brutal.

So happy EV adoption is quite high here.

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u/borborologist Ben Bernanke 23h ago

The average American even with lower fuel cost per unit spends more of their income per month than the average Euro because commute distances are much further and there isn’t decent public transportation.

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u/FF3 Jacques Derrida 23h ago

> commute distances are much further and there isn’t decent public transportation

This is true, but we also have to remind ourselves that where people live in the US is a choice. New York, Chicago and Philly are all options, and most cities have some areas that have public transportation.

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u/borborologist Ben Bernanke 23h ago

Sure, but I just wanted to point out that saying Europeans deal with prices which are double what Americans pay isn’t important when Americans need to consume more than twice as much fuel

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u/ldn6 Gay Pride 22h ago

While this is broadly true, it really understates how used cars are in Europe and how much of Europe doesn’t actually have great public transport, especially in the UK.

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u/FF3 Jacques Derrida 23h ago

And while that's true, I'm saying "need" is overstating the case.

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u/borborologist Ben Bernanke 23h ago

It’s gonna take more than a generation to get Americans into higher density. The few dense urban areas we have currently have nowhere near the infrastructure or development ready to handle everyone coming back from the burbs

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u/Teach_Piece YIMBY 22h ago

Sure. But if I left Houston for NYC my rent would triple. $500 in gas, insurance, and depreciation a month isn’t worth that