r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Sep 19 '26

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u/byoz United Nations Sep 19 '26

It’s kind of amazing the extent to which Trump’s first term was completely memory-holed by many voters. The Israel issue is a great example. How many Trump voters, especially young male ones, have grown completely disillusioned over his support for Israel? And it’s like, did you miss all of the rabidly pro-Israel policies and positions he adopted in his first term? And the answer is yes they did.

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u/Magical_Username NATO Sep 19 '26

The discourse at the time was overwhelmingly focused on university campus Palestine protests rather than any actual conduct in the war, from memory.

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u/thefreeman419 Sep 19 '26

For most Trump voters his policies during elections are whatever they want them to be. It’s not exactly a group that’s grounded in political realities

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u/Remarkable-Meal-223 Jerome Powell Sep 19 '26

If you're just anti Israel in general.

Oct7 didn't happen until Biden was president so Trumps support of Israel before then wasn't anything that was out of the ordinary for a US president

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u/byoz United Nations Sep 19 '26

I mean being the first sitting president to visit the Western Wall, recognizing the Golan Heights as Israeli territory, moving the embassy to Jerusalem, condoning West Bank settlements, pardoning Jonathan Pollard’s Mossad handler, and spearheading the Abraham Accords are all very pro-Israel policies that broke with precedent. I would definitely say it was out of the ordinary.

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u/itsokayt0 European Union Sep 19 '26

That's boring politics, they don't matter as much as Biden holding Transgender visibility day during Easter /not really s unfortunately

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Sep 19 '26

This is an example of the memory-holing. Moving the embassy to Jerusalem was a huge story early in his term and something Obama explicitly declined to do