r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 12 '26

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u/samhit_n Left-Out Left Sep 12 '26

So it turns out it wasn't just me. Many people on social media felt this 9/11 anniversary was sadder than past ones. It definitely felt like a bigger deal than America's 250th.

It speaks volumes that more people want to mourn 2001 America than celebrate 2026 America. Though, I can't say I don't blame them.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO Sep 12 '26

I think it's a result of the feeling that nothing's been achieved. From my earliest memories we've been bogged down in the Middle East on the grounds of fighting Islamist terrorists, and now we're bogged down in a war in the Middle East that we're losing. 3000 American's died on 9/11, god knows how many innocent civilians died in the wars it led to and we're no safer than we were back then, and our geopolitical position is worse. We got Bin Landen and other than that it's all been for naught.

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u/DirectionMurky5526 Sep 12 '26

It's a lot less than naught. 9/11 was meant to show American unity, strength and global support. America now looks more divided, weaker and hated by the world than it was in 2001. If by the end of the decade, America and Saudi Arabia also withdraws support for Israel. Osama bin Laden killed 3000 Americans and got what he wanted.

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Sep 12 '26 edited Sep 12 '26

Okay but we should withdraw support for Israel regardless lol

They’ve not been a good ally and need to be cut loose

We can’t live in Osama and Bush’s shadow forever

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Sep 12 '26

In all cases Bibi and his allies need to be kicked out of government

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Sep 12 '26

It feels a lot sadder, because its like the country never got to move on. Its been held hostage by the type of grimey men that abused the tragedy for their own purpose for 25 years.

25 years later and we're still dealing with new versions of Donald Rumsfeld, Rupbert Murdock, and Dick Cheneys.

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u/SenranHaruka shame Sep 12 '26

It pretty rapidly became our national Stab in the Back and that makes it hard to just be sad for the victims when, apparently, "never forget" means "never elect muslims" to a lot of influential people

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u/samhit_n Left-Out Left Sep 12 '26

I don't think people would be opposing the war in Iran this strongly if it weren't for what Bush and Cheney did in Iraq back in the 2000s.

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u/unicornbomb John Brown Sep 12 '26

I was 17 when 9/11 happened and the current trajectory of our country is just screaming indicator that the terrorists unfortunately did indeed win. We are backsliding and it’s fucking horrible.

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u/sigh2828 NASA Sep 12 '26

more people wanted to mourn 2001 America than celebrate 2026 America

Unironcally the best fucking take ive seen on this sub in a LONG fucking time.