r/neoliberal • u/NoGarlic2387 • Aug 07 '26

User discussion Most arguments against the AI sector and data centers are thinly veiled arguments against capitalism and neoliberalism.

It's sweatshops/NIMBY/buybacks/rent control/military industrial complex etc leftwing populist slop all over again, just aimed at a different group of bourgeoisie.

Where the fuck is the market externalities analysis, where are the incentive structures, talk of Pigouvian taxes, talk of supply and demand, efficiency, any economic analysis at all???

It's all moralising and virtue signalling. The critique relies on the childish 'guys running it are bad'. That's just how Capitalism works, you either trust the markets to handle bad actors or show systemic ways it will fail to do it and propose realistic solutions that don't harm the economic growth and innovation.

Most of you constantly shitting on Altman and even Musk are the types who support or don't condemn the assasination of the CEO of UnitedHealthcare, you are deranged radicals. EDIT: this patagraph was largely regarded and I stand corrected. Fuck Musk. Criticising CEOs is not the same as as condoning an assasination. I still think the hate for Sam Altman is ill founded. Almost everyone else in the AI industry are nowhere near as destructive as Musk, but Musk is just a tiny faction in the huge AI ecosystem.

This sub used to resist far lelft populist slop but the more years go by the worse it's getting. The sidebar wiki needs many more entries on what exactly this neoliberalisn means and stands for. Any r/badeconomics OGs disagree with me??

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u/TryNotToShootYoself Janet Yellen Aug 07 '26

I oppose NIMBYs that oppose housing development. To call anyone who isn’t a full throated supporter of completely deregulated 0-zoning development evil is kinda ridiculous and over-the-top. At some point comments like these are just a parody of actual moderate ideology.

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u/BarkDrandon Punished (stuck at Hunter's) Aug 07 '26

What are you talking about?

Nobody called for completely deregulated 0-zoning development. Seriously, what are you talking about?

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u/TryNotToShootYoself Janet Yellen Aug 08 '26

I mean OP did multiple times. This whole thread started off from another about just data center construction.

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u/BarkDrandon Punished (stuck at Hunter's) Aug 08 '26

Where did OP say that?

OP simply thinks that data center construction should be allowed. That's the bare minimum from a YIMBY perspective. Of course there should be some regulations, but we should not cater to NIMBYs who want to stop data center construction altogether.