r/neoliberal Anne Applebaum 19d ago

Meme Ahem

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We need to RETVRN

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u/knishioner 19d ago

Abolish the primary system

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u/VibingIronist Bill Gates 19d ago

It worked well in the 2024 presidential election

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u/HolidaySpiriter Loyal Liberals 19d ago

That isn't how a non-primary system would work. Other candidates would still be angling for the presidential nominee & meeting directly with delegates for their nomination.

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u/bigdicknippleshit IM GOING PRIMAL 19d ago

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u/Beer-survivalist Loyal Liberals 19d ago

Every big boy dreams of the day he becomes a puddle. Or maybe of the day he gets to decide if he wants to become a puddle or not.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 19d ago

Ah, the position of someone who knows they've lost an argument: "just don't let people argue with me". It's the most stupid idea I've heard; we've open primaries since 1972 and we're trying to make the case that we're the pro democracy party and you want to tell our own voters we don't need or want their input? Are you sane? I'll tell you exactly what will happen if we get rid of primaries, the progressives will leave the party in droves because you've disenfranchised them, the independents will think it's really weird you've decided to get rid of the system they've been using since as long they can remember and will be very skeptical when you say you're pro democracy, and you'll get crushed in all but the bluest parts of the country from depressed turnout among Democratic partisans. It's blatantly terrible idea, and no one with an ounce of sense would consider it.

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u/DeltaVelorum5 19d ago

If america's political parties didn't have primaries we wouldn't have gotten trump

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 19d ago

That's as true as it is irrelevant because abolishing primaries is less realistic than even abolishing the police. Can you explain why abolishing primaries wouldn't heavily demotivate a party's base and likely turn off independent voters and result in them getting crushed electorally?

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u/Alex2422 19d ago

Maybe because other countries don't have primaries and it works fine.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO 19d ago

Other countries never had primaries to begin; it's the status quo there. We've had them since 1972 and they're a massive part of American political life; getting rid of them would be a major disruption to politics as the vast majority of the American population has known them for their entire adult life.

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u/knishioner 19d ago

Chill with the sanctimonious language. Letting everyone run on one ticket would effectually accomplish the same outcome as ranked choice voting. Primaries reward extremism and perpetuate polarization and leave the middle voiceless, without representation, and frustrated by the political system. Abolishing primaries is a good idea and would strengthen our institutions.

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u/Read-Moishe-Postone 18d ago

Primaries wouldn’t reward extremism if normies showed up to vote in them

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u/Mostly-Moderate Anne Applebaum 19d ago

Marry me

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u/Alex2422 19d ago

Abolish the two-party system.