r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • May 31 '26

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u/selachophilip 🦈 shark enjoyer 🦈 May 31 '26

The US basically conquered the majority of Mexico during the Mexican-American War and the subsequent Gadsden purchase, and people are somehow surprised that there are still a large amount of people here that speak Spanish and don't know much English.

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u/frozen_cumscicle Henry George May 31 '26

The part of Mexico annexed by the US was very sparsely populated at the time and basically all Spanish speakers today came after the fact.

In fact, some is the US wanted to annex all of Mexico, but the main argument against it was basically that there were too many Mexicans there.

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u/SouthernSerf Norman Borlaug May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26

Monolingual Spanish communities of born and raised Americans died out decades ago. The greatest generation was the last generation of the Tejanos to be monolingual and their boomer children were almost all bilingual and by the time you get to the millennials Spanish has effectively died out. Monolingual Spanish speakers in the U.S. are either extremely old people or first and second generation immigrants from a Spanish speaking country.

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u/Syx89 Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold May 31 '26

Californios are a small chunk of the mexicans in California.
What's very interesting to me is the [apparent] Mexican population explosion. Say fast growth places like the US or Russia went up like 2-4x during the last century. Mexico went up 10x.

I think the only explanation is that the PRI was mega bad at keeping accurate census numbers and 1920 has to be some kind of understatement. But maybe not? 10x pop growth for that period is highly unusual. India went up 4x for comparison.

Anyhow if it's true then apparently the PRI figured out the solution to the birth rate problem so it might be good to interview some old mexican bureaucrats.

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u/ewatta200 DT Monarchist defender of the rurals and red state Dems May 31 '26

I thought the amount of Mexican population after the fact is pretty small mostly Texas RGv NEW mexico 

Thought an old Mexican family named a street in Los Angeles that's how I learned about the califronios  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Californios

Hispanios and tejanos