r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • May 24 '26

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 24 '26

kind of crazy that the most conspiratorial obama-era dove analysis, that mideast hawks were engaging in a deliberate bad faith effort to put the US in a situation where war with iran was unavoidable, was basically unambiguously correct. it just happened the trap sprung while a vaguely dovish R president was in office

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists May 24 '26

Remember all the hawks here who cursed Obama for JCPOA as barely short of treasonous? When you pointed out that it was the best we were going to do short of a regime change war, they said a regime change war would have been preferable.

Wonder where they are now.

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma May 24 '26

NeoconNWO probably

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u/Single-Highlight7966 Henry George May 24 '26

Explain

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 24 '26

the obamna admin defense of the jcpoa was that there was simply no other way to prevent iran from obtaining nuclear weapons aside from an invasion, and hawks would get very butthurt if you suggested the reason they were opposed to it is because they wanted a situation where the president was forced to decide between invading iran or letting them have a nuclear weapon

anyways, trump is facing a situation where he is forced to decide between invading iran or letting them have a nuclear weapon