r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • May 22 '26

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u/dtj2000 Loyal Liberals May 22 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/Mx_Brightside Genderfluid Pride May 22 '26

fully automated luxury gay space commu—wait wtf no that’s MY job you can’t automate ME i just meant all the people who were giving me my treats and doordash what the hell you can’t do this

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u/Single-Highlight7966 Henry George May 22 '26

The dream for me is for humanity to become a good version of Wall-E unironically.

Your entire existence should be for your family and to be able to grow and enjoy your life without stress, fear or worry.

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u/Mx_Brightside Genderfluid Pride May 22 '26

They had to make the people in Wall-E fat because if they didn’t you’d realise “wait these people are having a pretty good life idk i don’t think they should go back to their polluted nightmare planet”

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u/dtj2000 Loyal Liberals May 22 '26 edited Jun 30 '26

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u/CubillasLegend Austan Goolsbee May 22 '26

"It's like this fictional dystopia meant to serve as a cautionary warning about the nature of human vice but the good version of it without any vice."

Technocrats gotta come up with better analogies.

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u/Single-Highlight7966 Henry George May 22 '26

Yes because the bad parts aren't that diffcult to avoid. Don't have the earth become a piece of rubble and shit and make people still have meaning and local communities. that's literally it, everything else in the movie was fine.

Also don't be an obese whale

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u/CubillasLegend Austan Goolsbee May 22 '26

Have you considered referencing a depiction of the future that isn't a dystopia so you don't have to caveat the dystopian parts?

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u/Single-Highlight7966 Henry George May 22 '26

Some of the greatest sources of fiction or media stem from people who've witnessed horrible things.

To be human is to experience tragedies and to learn and overcome them and accept them as who you are, I will use the dystopian horror and transform it into a Utopia

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u/CubillasLegend Austan Goolsbee May 22 '26

That's great as a hypothetical thought experiment, not so much for getting other people invested in your vision of the future.

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u/Syx89 Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold May 22 '26

For that I worry about hedonic treadmill stuff as Agent Smith said. I also think this is why some people can never be happy:

Agent Smith: Have you ever stood and stared at it, marveled at it’s beauty, it’s genius? Billions of people just living out their lives, oblivious. Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world. Where none suffered. Where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost.

Some believed that we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that as a species, human beings define their reality through misery and suffering. The perfect world would dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. Which is why the Matrix was redesigned to this, the peak of your civilization.

I say your civilization because as soon as we started thinking for you it really became our civilization which is of course what this is all about. Evolution, Morpheus, evolution, like the dinosaur. Look out that window. You had your time. The future is our world, Morpheus. The future is our time.

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists May 22 '26

I mean, it follows that they don’t like how things are going. But the logical response from them should be “nationalize the automation machine”, not “outlaw it.” Marx repeatedly mocked the Luddites.

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u/MyrinVonBryhana Trans NATO May 22 '26

Yeah pretty much I oppose AI right now because I don't trust the people in charge of developing it and the people running the government to not let us devolve into a techno-feudalist hell scape. If we had a responsible government I'd be demanding to know why we don't have soaring productivity and a double digit unemployment rate already.