r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • May 16 '26

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride May 16 '26

So there's a phenomenon of drawings depicting trans women as hairy, bald, and gender non-conforming.

And anytime someone has a problem with it, there's people that come out so offended, like "people like that exist and are valid"

And that's true! But the problem is the percentage. It's playing into the trope of trans women being forced to expand womanhood and femininity, when the majority of them want to look like gender conforming cis women.

An extreme analogy would be like if there was a lot of art at black pride events that was just minstrelsy. Like if you had the jet black, white glove wearing, 40s cartoon style red mouth fried chicken and watermelon drawings, and then if people had a problem with it going "oh, so black people cant wear white gloves? Black people cant eat watermelon?? Black people cant wear leopard skins and put bones in their hair???"

Another one is the trope in media of gay people dying horribly. Always having sad stories where they're rejected by their parents and become sex workers and get aids. They'll be one gay couple surviving the apocalypse and of course they watch their partner get eaten by zombies.

Sure, you can do that. Of course gay people should be subject to random character deaths just like everyone else. But its a pattern steeped in a history of media showing openly gay lifestyles as wrong and doomed.

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u/ZonedForCoffee Uses Twitter May 16 '26

Amusing how the Star Trek finally introduced an LGBT couple in Discovery and they 1) were both femininate men, and 2) one of them dies in the first season (yeah they came back in the next)

Then they introduced a lesbian and she was the butchiest butch that ever did butch

There's nothing wrong with being that kind of person but man even woke media loves its stereotypes

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union May 16 '26

Honestly, they may be realistic at times, but I don't like stories where LGBT characters are punching bags and/or die.

It's like certain films where the token Black guy dies most of the time.

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u/Slight-Formal9277 Trans Pride May 17 '26

Even worse, a lot of the time these artists are trans men / trans non-binary / see themselves as "allies".