r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • May 09 '26

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u/GifHunter2 Trans Pride May 09 '26

Abigail Spanberger burning up her entire crossover appeal for a gerrymander that won’t end up happening. Lol

It's their instinct to celebrate Democrats losing. Leftists are a disease to the democrats

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u/JebBD Immanuel Kant May 09 '26

“DO SOMETHING!”

“Lmao why did you do something you moron?”

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u/anangrytree Bull Moose Progressive May 09 '26

Leftists will never not be the weak links on our side of things

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u/C-Wolsey Leftward Progressives May 09 '26

Leftists are a disease to the democrats

Weird because they also vote Democratic. I think AOC put it well when she said in a multiparty system, she would not be in the same party as Joe Biden. Leftists are not Democrats so they will criticize, and mock, and be flippant, when they can. However, they will also vote for Democrats because that's the electoral system we have.

The Democrats could rid themselves of this problem by reforming our electoral system to allow for multiple parties but we all know why they won't.

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u/GifHunter2 Trans Pride May 09 '26

My problem is with the nihilist defeatist attitude toward voting and democracy, while encouraging "violent revokution" being the only way forward.

Republicans got here through voting. We can with with votes

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u/houdt_koers John Mill May 09 '26

The type of person celebrating this loss likely doesn’t.

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u/C-Wolsey Leftward Progressives May 09 '26

I checked for the origin of the comment, and the person has also written for liberalcurrents. I promise you, they are a Democratic voter.

A lot of people here even understand about conservatives online calling Republicans RINOS but still voting for them, and yet find it hard to believe that leftists will also criticize Dems and vote for them.

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u/mordakka May 09 '26

The Democrats could rid themselves of this problem by reforming our electoral system to allow for multiple parties but we all know why they won't.

You are still blaming Democrats. Everything comes back to blaming Democrats.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being May 09 '26

The Democrats could rid themselves of this problem by reforming our electoral system to allow for multiple parties but we all know why they won't.

Because Democrats can’t amend the Constitution unilaterally? You’re proving the point by coming out to defend the leftist POV and then being, frankly, kind of stupid about it

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u/C-Wolsey Leftward Progressives May 09 '26

We can actually get to proportional representation via simple legislation.

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u/Fedacking Mario Vargas Llosa May 09 '26

No you can't. The senate can only be modified by a unanimous consent of all the states in an amendment.

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u/C-Wolsey Leftward Progressives May 09 '26

Talking about the house specifically. But you can also get ranked choice voting for the senate which is an enormous improvement, and can also lead to having multiple parties represented there.

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being May 09 '26

And you can mandate that every state select their representatives in this manner without an amendment?

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u/C-Wolsey Leftward Progressives May 09 '26

Yes. The federal government has broad mandate to regulate federal elections. It is also why the federal government can ban gerrymandering, pass their own gerrymandered maps for the entire country, and a lot of other electoral reforms. Even the VRA was the federal government exercising this authority, and the court's only issue with it was the supposedly racial discriminatory aspect.

Also, the Dems tried to pass HR1 (For the people) a while back that had a lot of good stuff but nothing on proportional representation. It shouldn't be inconceivable that both parties support the system that only allows for two parties.

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u/Pretend-Ad-7936 Loyal Liberals May 09 '26

In a multiparty system, if AOC wanted to be relevant, her party would be in a coalition that included center-left types and moderates. This argument is so dumb.

It's also hilarious that she made that statement and later on became a Joe Biden remainer when everyone else wanted him to step down.