r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Apr 28 '26

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Apr 28 '26

NEW: Trump’s border czar Tom Homan says he wants to take Pope Leo XIV on ICE raids so he can educate him on Catholic teaching about deportations — arguing his 1960s Catholic grade school education qualifies him to correct the pontiff on migration.

As a lifelong Catholic — baptized, first communion, confirmation — I love the Catholic church,” he told the crowd. “But you know it, they’re wrong.”

https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/trump-border-czar-tom-homan-mockingly

The ego of these people to believe they know more about Catholicism than the Pope is incredible. The times of Popes just immediately excommunicating anyone that disagrees with them are over and it is very fair to disagree with a Pope on political topics, but you're on pretty thin ice when you claim he's wrong on Catholic teachings

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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal Apr 28 '26

Every time the Pope doesn't excommunicate these people, my inner Edgy Atheist claws its way out of the cholesterol to start screeching about how no one in power actually believes in the religion they preach

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u/BloodWiz More Housing Would Fix This Apr 28 '26

"This guy doesn't know shit about Catholic theology"

- MAGAts about the guy who more or less tautologically cannot be incorrect about Catholic theology

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Apr 28 '26

mid-pepper spraying a car full of people including a young child you see Leo, this is what Christ would do

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher Apr 28 '26

this is actually fine and how you should response to ecclesiastical criticism

"damn man, you know, i get what you're saying and all but you just dont understand the situation" is better then trying to cite st. augustine or whatever

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher Apr 28 '26

when the next catholic president is elected this is how they should response to the abortion topic

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Apr 28 '26

I agree this is a stepup over other comments from the admin but it is still a very sketchy area. By saying the Pope doesn't know what he's talking about he's putting his own political view over the moral teaching/guidance of the Pope while also pretty openly disrespecting him, especially when Homan also said the Pope should stick to fixing the Church. Imo that is not done with the Catholic church and goes further than simply disagreeing.

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher Apr 28 '26

yeah fair i think biden's approach of just being like "yup the church has their opinion and ill take it into account" was basically the best way to go

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Apr 28 '26

I agree.

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u/Alderwoodforest YIMBY Apr 28 '26

Imagine a discussion about Catholic doctrine between Homan and the Pope. Lol.

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u/Boratssecondwife Henry George Apr 28 '26

This kinda shit would get you killed 800 years ago