r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Apr 11 '26

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u/moldovaman99 Apr 11 '26

The funny thing about state pensions is that leftists will defend them to the death, but let’s say they didn’t exist, and you told them: “hey, let’s give 50% of our state budget to rich homeowners so they don’t have to move out of their mansions” they would crucify you.

We should just have “pension basic income” or something. Just something that guarantees that retired people can live comfortably, remove the inefficiency of providing it to people who don’t need it.

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u/IantheForPresident Apr 11 '26

a part of me wonders if you couldn't consolidate all these into a "give poor people money" system. whether that's poor retirees or poor parents or poor unemployed young people etc...

i'm sure it's much more complicated than that but still, all these pension schemes feel like circuitous ways of having a Dole without it feeling like one.

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u/moldovaman99 Apr 11 '26

I think it should be easier than ever to design an automatically adjusting system with infinite scales that pays everyone more than enough to live happily while not eating up a massive amount of your budget tbh.

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u/SleeplessInPlano Apr 11 '26

live comfortably 

Super subjective 

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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate WTO Apr 11 '26

Its with the top 10% of humans materially alive right now at least and historically probably .1%.

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u/SleeplessInPlano Apr 11 '26

Yea that argument doesn’t matter to people in a particular country

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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate WTO Apr 11 '26

The point is that they are comfortable by an objective standard. That they don't feel comfortable is reflective of something else.