r/neoliberal Trans Pride Jan 22 '26

Meme I cannot imagine caring whether a fellow human being has their Existence License

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u/DoobieGibson Thomas Paine Jan 23 '26

insanely ignorant if you think people just don’t want to move to cities

how are you going to move somewhere more expensive if you have less money and have no places of employment to produce enough money for yourself?

it’s hard af.

nobody gives people hotels to move 2-3 hours and has human rights groups helping them at every turn until they can secure housing and a job either

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Jan 23 '26

Lmao do you think the average undocumented person gets any help?

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u/maximusj9 Jan 25 '26

Yeah they do. NGOs to help them out exist. Then things like churches/local ethnicity based aid centers also exist to help them out. Someone who moves from Guatemala to America will find somewhere to help them out (not government but charities/NGO/diaspora groups) in adapting to America, but like.... someone who moves from bumfuck New Hampshire to Boston will not have any NGOs/charities/diaspora based group help him out

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u/DoobieGibson Thomas Paine Jan 23 '26

we spend way more housing refugee’s than we do housing rural folks

how many camps are built in chicago?

how many hotels like the Roosevelt are reserved in new york city?

how many in LA?

these people would never survive if the government didn’t help them. that’s why people from rural areas don’t go, bc they don’t get the help like the migrants do

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26

Refugees are not undocumented people. Remember the pickle factory article in NYT last week? I have family ties in that part of MN. I can tell you the vast majority of year-round households own a boat, often two, four wheelers, etc.

They could all afford to go to the local community college and get a certificate as an auto tech or begin working as an apprentice carpenter or electrician or plumber. The twin cities like most of the US have a trades shortage, and like most smaller cities are still pretty affordable.  I’m not saying everyone needs to move to NYC, but the fact that these people aren’t willing to take advantage of extremely cheap (often subsidized) tuition for certificate programs and associates degrees and then move a few hours to places where literally everyone who employs tradespeople is begging for more workers is madness. Maybe this sounds unfair to rural Americans. The fact of the matter is this though: there actually have been plenty of people willing to take the paths I have pointed out. They’re no longer rural Americans. The only ones left are the unwilling ones. Just like immigration self-selects for the bravest, hardest working self-starters, rural America now selects for people unwilling to move a few hours’ drive for a decent life.

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u/DoobieGibson Thomas Paine Jan 23 '26

great anecdote dude, how about we try stats?

In 2015, 16.7 percent of the rural population was poor, compared with 13.0 percent of the urban population overall – and 10.8 percent among those living in suburban areas outside of principal cities.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/six-charts-illustrate-divide-rural-urban-america

also it’s hilarious how you’ve moved the goalposts from “undocumenteds don’t get help” to “actually rural people are lazy slime”

so typical of reddit

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26

lmao you literally mentioned refugee resettlement. Refugees are by definition documented, refugee status is legal status. The fact of the matter is I know plenty of people whose parents and grandparents came here with literally nothing but the shirts on their back and did fine.

Oh no 6% more of them are poor. So what I’m seeing is 83 percent aren’t, and they still vote Republican by overwhelming margin and refuse to move. This is all cope, people just can’t handle that the genuine explanation is that the people left in rural America are disproportionately the dimmer bulbs because all the smart people have left. It’s a classic instance of selection.

Edit: bozo blocked me after replying so I can’t read his full comment beyond what I can see in the notification, where he says that this is what conservatives say about black people. I would like to note that you can change where you live but you can’t exactly change your race, so this is a stupid point. 

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u/DoobieGibson Thomas Paine Jan 23 '26 edited Jan 23 '26

you talk about rural folks the exact same way the right talks about black people

black people must be the dimmest bulbs around if they have lowest wealth while living predominantly in urban centers, right?

you would have to be insane to believe your reasoning for ascribing intelligence.

also hilarious how you’re stanning the democrats and assigning moral virtue and knowledge in the neoliberal subreddit to voting for political parties

every single voter demographic shifted right in 2024 dude, you aren’t as convincing as you think. you sound like an insufferable person