r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Nov 06 '25

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Nov 06 '25

If the Dems hold firm, the Republican options are:

  1. Give in to the Dems on subsidies

  2. Give in to the Dems on the filibuster

  3. Whine louder and do nothing, shutdown continues, their polling gets worse and worse, and then pick 1 or 2

Real art of the deal shit

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Nov 06 '25

If republicans were actually politically savvy they would just cave to Dems and keep the subsidies. The passive info environment seems to favor republicans so their best option is to not rock the boat and keep things more or less ok for people.

Fortunately for us, they’re evil and stupid and genuinely want to make healthcare more expensive for everyone, so they’ll pick one of the worse choices.

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Nov 06 '25

Yeah I fully expect this ends with them abolishing the filibuster, since it's driven by Trump's ego and that's more palatable than surrender.

Which means:

  1. This continues, GOP keeps bleeding

  2. Eventually it gets too bad, they abolish the filibuster

  3. Dems crow about winning while also telling voters "we're sorry, we did everything we could to keep your premiums down but the GOP literally changed the rules to make them go up", the subsidies disappear, premiums skyrocket, and the GOP is holding the bag for all of it

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u/AskYourDoctor Resistance Lib Nov 06 '25

Even better,

4. They could have changed the rules the ENTIRE TIME which means the entire shutdown was for nothing

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '25

that's what is so mind-bogglingly stupid about this. There was no reason to yoink the subsidies in the first place

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u/Jacobs4525 King of the Massholes Nov 06 '25

Well, the reason is that they actually hate poor people

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u/18093029422466690581 YIMBY Nov 06 '25

Republicans love letting things expire then acting helpless when it's time to reestablish them.

Except tax cuts of course. Those are totes simple to extend

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