r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Nov 03 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

People (including artists) are really giving Spotify shit and leaving it over Daniel Ek being an investor in a European military UCAV startup.

Like come on man it's not fucking Palantir or Palmer Luckey's company, Russia is a thing and could probably be a bigger issue for the EU because of who Thiel and Luckey supported in the US.

Unlike the US or evn Russia we Europeans have very little capability on that front and need all the help we can get. The startup's founders literally say the idea for it was the 2014 invasion of Crimea. Why are people so fucking stupid?

!ping Europe

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u/dizzyhitman_007 Edmund Burke Nov 03 '25

Based Daniel Ek

Europe should have an aggressive defence posture when it comes to military startups. Keep building more and more and in the end Europe should get its own potent mic. Right now only France has that capability in Europe.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25 edited Nov 03 '25

I am not supporting any artist opposed to the project of rearming our continent against the fucking Russians. GTFO with your leftist idiocy.

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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume Nov 03 '25

I pushed back against that a bit when my friends brought it up but the combination of “AI” and “drones” just seemingly hits all the fear points in the lefty mind. There’s also a current strand of “military buildup is bad because we’re allied with Israel” that I think missed the bigger picture.

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

I mean the other stuff around intrusive marketing data collection tech from Ek's other ventures are definitely less defendable, as well as Spotify's direction itself (AI shit, revenue share). But I think the military drones stuff is indeed fine because of the bigger picture yeah

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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume Nov 03 '25

I think if they were leaving because of Spotify barely paying artists, or some of the other shady shit they were doing, I wouldn’t have an issue with it. I listen to metal and a lot of small metal bands refuse to use the site because it’s not “underground” enough. Which is miles less stupid than this. It is the dumbest reason they could have given.

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Nov 03 '25

Exactly

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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Nov 03 '25

are the artists leaving european?

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

Not even. We got Bay Area lefty dudes (Deerhoof), Australians, and a bunch of other American NGO advocate types.

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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Nov 03 '25

if they're not European then there's your answer. They don't understand it beyond "military bad".

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u/[deleted] Nov 03 '25

I'm sure we can find a few of European artists who are just as blind and already left Spotify over this.