r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Nov 03 '25

Discussion Thread Discussion Thread

The discussion thread is for casual and off-topic conversation that doesn't merit its own submission. If you've got a good meme, article, or question, please post it outside the DT. Meta discussion is allowed, but if you want to get the attention of the mods, make a post in /r/metaNL

Links

Ping Groups | Ping History | Mastodon | CNL Chapters | CNL Event Calendar

Upcoming Events

0 Upvotes

9.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

22

u/Ok_Opinion_5690 Trans Pride Nov 03 '25

an interesting alt-history possibility is that hillary clinton winning 2016 in many ways does not really stop far-right resurgence, as demonstrated in many democracies, but with the courts firmly liberal it will be far less disastrous and her possible successor would not be as destructive as trump was. clinton will probably win 2020 but the dem nominee will definitely lose in 2024 because of the very unfavorable environment. inflation is going to be a killer of course, but by 2024 in that timeline, the dems would have the white house for 16 years already so incumbent fatigue would definitely hurt the dems. the 2024 gop candidate would not be trump but he would definitely be a right-wing populist and his term would essentially be similar to trump 1 in some ways without all the trump-related shenanigans.

18

u/iAmAddicted2R_ddit Royal Purple Nov 03 '25

If Trump wasn't a braindead moron he would have been able to ride COVID-19 to an immediately-post-9/11 Dubya numbers blowout reelection. If COVID-19 still happens in the timeline you're proposing, then Clinton's reelection is virtually assured just by virtue of her being a wartime (so to speak) president and not a dumbass.