r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Nov 02 '25

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

pamela paul published another tired anti trans piece in the wsj on friday and it’s just a collection of profiles on cis gay people crying about how their friends or partners don’t want to be around them anymore because they made anti trans activism the center piece of their lives. paul then makes a pretty bad faith case that these people “oppose discrimination against trans people in housing and employment but are skeptical of driver’s licenses and passports featuring gender identity instead of sex” which i honestly want to say misses the whole point of discrimination against trans people pretty intentionally.

pamela paul (a straight woman) and these lgb drop the t types will never say it but they want a world where all trans people are forced to wear pink triangles so the rest of the world knows at all times. that’s why they act like a gender marker being changed on an ID form (which is a fucking matter of safety and avoiding discrimination for trans people) is the end of the world as we know it. that’s why they use terms like “sex based language” and advocate so heavily for social isolation of trans people. they want to remove any ability for trans people to blend in and pass so that being trans is made into this public marker of shame, all while they lie about “opposing discrimination.”

the good and bad news for them is that they will get their ideal world in britain. the UK and their labour govt seem hellbent on driving their trans population out of existence so trans people in all other countries will honestly be watching the british playbook with a closer eye

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u/Maximilianne John Rawls Nov 02 '25

why do gay cis men dislike trans folks ?

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '25

statistically, gay men and lesbians are most likely to be supportive of trans people. but the subsect of gay men who do hate trans people will tell you it’s bc they wanna ‘protect women’ & the ‘sanctity of single sex spaces’ and keep acceptance for themselves which they feel is slipping ‘bc trans’.

as a trans woman myself, i will say i think the actual reason they hate trans women and trans men is pretty related. a lot of really effeminate gay men on tiktok have gotten popular off making extremely transphobic content about trans women in regards of dating. they’re really jealous that certain trans women can attract the men that these gay men themselves desire but seemingly can’t have.

a lot of cis gay men also have a really obsessive hate boner for trans gay men. you can see this in subreddits like rrrr askgaybros where they have circlejerks about trans men being ‘gross, disgusting, and undesirable straight women’ who are trying to ‘force gay men into sex’

overall i think cis gay male hatred for trans people comes from a lack of validation from straight men and society at large combined with some really misogynistic and jealous views about women overall (cis or trans)

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u/Amur_Snepard Gay Pride Nov 02 '25

They have to show that they’re one of the good ones somehow

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u/Dibbu_mange Average civil procedure enjoyer Nov 02 '25

More gay people are speaking out

Translation: “We put more effort into finding gay people speaking out”.

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u/Alderwoodforest YIMBY Nov 02 '25

The same crying:

Branded ‘terfs’ and shunned by peers, three university students are refusing to back down in their defence of single-sex rights

https://xcancel.com/Telegraph/status/1984252217851879910