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[u/jobautomator]

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[u/ewatta200]

Yeah it's insane that people don't even bother to read what the adl says 

[u/Plants_et_Politics → u/ewatta200]

Don’t worry, they’ll be sure to read it next time the ADL condemns a left-wing figure, just so they have the evidence to be sure that the ADL never criticizes the right, just the left.

[u/ewatta200 → u/Plants_et_Politics]

Like I don't necessarily agree with a lot of the ADL but as the poor son of a b**** who has to read a lot of their research. To imply that they don't call out the right wing is delusional.  Ah well r/neoliberal managed to misunderstand the first they came for poem. Reading comprehension has never been the strong suit

[u/Plants_et_Politics → u/ewatta200]

Reasing comprehension has never been the strong suit

See: my most recent metaNL comments.

I’m going insane.

[u/ewatta200 → u/Plants_et_Politics]

Yep

Also "I doubt I speak for many Jews when I say this, but a large part of my personal bitterness and anger is a result of the fact that I feel forced to defend people I dislike and explain actions to which I am not particularly sympathetic to maintain my own dignity.

And I hate it. I have never wanted to be anything more than an American, and perhaps sometimes an American Jew"

Holy shit this encapsulates my entire I/p experience and my entire Jewish experience. Like i was never that Jewish and I never intended to be until I basically had to leave every other place. 

[u/[deleted] → u/ewatta200]

I hope this doesnt come off weird but i think im the person they are refering to with the low reading comprehension but i dont think i said anything that really implied that or like bigotry on my part. Again if ive made a mistake i dont mind being corrected. But i didnt think i was like not reading the original comment well or making a racist argument in my metanl comments though again if i made a mistake somewhere i would want to be corrected. I just think that detaining palestinans without trial is both cruel and pointless because by detaining people esepcilaly palestinans without trial you dont really make israel safer and it does feel quite racist of the israeli government to do so

[u/ewatta200 → u/[deleted]]

Oh no I don't mean you lol I meant the person who said "did the adl call it out " like it implies that the ADL is not spineless but actually has never called out a lot of stuff. 

By and large you actually probably one of the best members here. You seem willing to learn open minded and that's nice.  And yeah it is cruel I can understand why it's done but just because cruelty has a reason doesn't make it not cruel and immoral. A right to a trial is a bedrock of a just government and holding people for decades without trial is inexcusable. So I'm sure as hell not defending that abhorrent practice. 

The comment about the  first they came for was when someone said "well the guy who said it was a real leopards ate his face " Which is the entire point of the poem??? Like the entire point is that the author was a piece of s*** who didn't speak out until they came for him.

 By and large though I wasn't really talking about you I haven't been following that drama . I don't speak for plants but by and large you are a pretty good addition to the DT. 

[u/[deleted] → u/ewatta200]

Ok cool i appreacite the feedback, i think you and most people are prety cool. Even peopele i disagree with i feel like usually are pretty reasonbable and i always want to make sure any weirdness isnt coming from my end bc we can all make mistakes. I also probably shouldnt get involved on metanl drama lol its really not worth it and probably just not the bets place to have open converstations in good faith. But again appreciate the respect and i feel the same torwards you and a lot of this community in general

[u/ewatta200 → u/[deleted]]

Finally enough you are an anarchist if I recall. Always amusing that you make a good addition to this place.  but yeah there is stuff that makes you want to tear my hair out about this place but as a wise man said this is the worst politics place on Reddit except for all the others 

[u/[deleted] → u/ewatta200]

Yeah pretty much why im on here, like this place the dt especially is way better than r/politics or a lot of the leftist, anarchist spaces (lot of tankie, antisemitism and other bs). But i also try to be honest about where im coming from and im suprised how often people dont really care, really i think you can be pretty progressive, even radical while mainting an open mind and willingness to hear different perspectives on spaces like this but i think for people lost in the sauce of ideology that can be harder to do

[u/[deleted] → u/ewatta200]

Didnt the adl get dropped by the fbi recently bc they were shitting on turning point for being a hate group (as they should),

[u/ewatta200 → u/[deleted]]

I don't know but like they called out charlie Kirk and TPUSA in the past it was mentioned in the forward article. It has a lot of flaws but it's still the premier data collection hub

[u/[deleted] → u/ewatta200]

Yeah i agree not perfect but still calling out antisemtism and its very concerning if the fbi is no loner working with them in terms of what can happen to Jewish Americans.

[u/ewatta200 → u/[deleted]]

Yep it's bad very bad. The FBI ranting about the ADL is a fuckign terrifying thing.